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RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Cormac - 02-19-2017

(02-19-2017, 09:25 PM)Belschaft Wrote: Sorry, there's a typo/ommision of the word "equivalent" there; the language isn't meant to be that broad. Corrected.

Much more reasonable. I can support that.

I do still have some concerns about the inclusion of deputies in this legislation though, not specifically related to (5), but just in general. This may just be a cultural difference, but I don't see any reason a legislative deputy couldn't serve in the executive, or vice versa.


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Belschaft - 02-20-2017

(02-19-2017, 09:39 PM)Cormac Wrote:
(02-19-2017, 09:25 PM)Belschaft Wrote: Sorry, there's a typo/ommision of the word "equivalent" there; the language isn't meant to be that broad. Corrected.

Much more reasonable. I can support that.

I do still have some concerns about the inclusion of deputies in this legislation though, not specifically related to (5), but just in general. This may just be a cultural difference, but I don't see any reason a legislative deputy couldn't serve in the executive, or vice versa.

I would have no problem with that, but others have argued for extremely strict separation provisions.


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Cormac - 02-20-2017

(02-20-2017, 07:23 AM)Belschaft Wrote:
(02-19-2017, 09:39 PM)Cormac Wrote:
(02-19-2017, 09:25 PM)Belschaft Wrote: Sorry, there's a typo/ommision of the word "equivalent" there; the language isn't meant to be that broad. Corrected.

Much more reasonable. I can support that.

I do still have some concerns about the inclusion of deputies in this legislation though, not specifically related to (5), but just in general. This may just be a cultural difference, but I don't see any reason a legislative deputy couldn't serve in the executive, or vice versa.

I would have no problem with that, but others have argued for extremely strict separation provisions.

Ah, I see. I admit I haven't read back through the thread yet. In that case, I don't want to hold up a compromise.


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Belschaft - 02-23-2017

Quote:7. Separation of Powers

(1) The Coalition's government consists of three branches; Executive, Judicial and Legislative, and the offices of such;
a. The Executive branch consists of the Delegate, Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers, and their designated deputies.
b. The Judicial branch consists of the Permanent Justice, and serving temporary or appellate Justices.
c. The Legislative branch consists of the Chair of the Assembly and their designated deputies, and Local Council members.

(2) It is not permitted for any individual to hold more than one office within the Coalition's government.

(3) It is permitted to seek election or appointment to new office whilst holding an existing office.

(4) Election or appointment to a new office constitutes explicit resignation of an existing office.


(5) Members of the Coalition's Executive branch may not hold any equivalent office in a foreign region or organisation.

Motion to vote.


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Seraph - 02-23-2017

(2) It is not permitted for any individual to hold more than one office within the Coalition's government.


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Belschaft - 02-23-2017

Apostrophe added, you grammar Nazi Tounge


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Seraph - 02-23-2017

(02-23-2017, 10:52 AM)Belschaft Wrote: Apostrophe added, you grammar Nazi [emoji14]
Proofreading is about the only thing I can offer this Assembly. Don't take it away from me! [emoji14]

Anyway, Second!


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Cormac - 02-23-2017

Seconding the motion to vote.


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Omega - 02-23-2017

We all do realize this makes the LC a formal part fo the legislative branch right?


RE: [DRAFT] Separation of Powers - Tsunamy - 02-23-2017

(02-23-2017, 11:23 AM)Omega Wrote: We all do realize this makes the LC a formal part fo the legislative branch right?

My thoughts as well.