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[PASSED] The January Accords - Tim - 01-19-2018 Howdy Legislators, Your faves the FA Team have been burning the midnight oil on a great treaty that should see even more success in solidifying the The South Pacific's stability and inter-regional friendships. In The Rejected Realms we already have an existing ally, one of our most reliable, and in The East Pacific we have a region that we've been flirting with for a while. We're really confident that this multilateral TSP/TRR/TEP treaty will be a positive step forward for all three regions, and hope the Assembly will ratify it. Thanks, Tim and the crew Quote:The January Accords RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Rikutso - 01-19-2018 Regarding Article 1.1, what defines the region's "domestic regional laws"? I recognize that it was meant to prevent a Lazarus-type situation, but I don't feel that it's specific enough. How could we judge what is legal and what isn't legal based on another region's laws? RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Tim - 01-19-2018 (01-19-2018, 01:40 PM)Rikutso Wrote: Regarding Article 1.1, what defines the region's "domestic regional laws". I recognize that it was meant to prevent a Lazarus-type situation, but I don't feel that it's specific enough. I think it's pretty clear, and am not sure what more specifics we would need there. Domestic Regional Laws pretty clearly implies each regions individual legal codes, legal systems, and other assorted legal documents which may dictate how their region is administrated. RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - sandaoguo - 01-19-2018 So what happens if TEP decides to ban our FA officials, so that they can't post notification of treaty withdrawal? We should probably protect ourselves against Balderite tactics, and say that withdrawal just requires posting a public notice, rather than specifically of the forums of the region that probably is now hostile to us if we're trying to repeal the treaty RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Tim - 01-19-2018 (01-19-2018, 01:44 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: So what happens if TEP decides to ban our FA officials, so that they can't post notification of treaty withdrawal? We should probably protect ourselves against Balderite tactics, and say that withdrawal just requires posting a public notice, rather than specifically of the forums of the region that probably is now hostile to us if we're trying to repeal the treaty I don't think either The Rejected Realms or The East Pacific would pull such a dirty tactic, given that they're regions of a higher class and caliber than Balder in my opinion. However, given the healthy amount of citizen overlap that we have in both The Rejected Realms and The East Pacific, I don't think there will ever be a moment in which we would have nobody able to post a treaty termination. RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Rikutso - 01-19-2018 (01-19-2018, 01:43 PM)Tim Wrote: I think it's pretty clearI reworded my question. I feel like I worded it wrong the first time RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - sandaoguo - 01-19-2018 (01-19-2018, 01:50 PM)Tim Wrote:(01-19-2018, 01:44 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: So what happens if TEP decides to ban our FA officials, so that they can't post notification of treaty withdrawal? We should probably protect ourselves against Balderite tactics, and say that withdrawal just requires posting a public notice, rather than specifically of the forums of the region that probably is now hostile to us if we're trying to repeal the treaty I doubt anybody thought Balder would do it when we originally passed the treaty with them, either. It should be standard to not leave TSP open to that kind of stuff again. RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Seraph - 01-19-2018 This is a very sensible suggestion from Glen. As much as we would hope that such a provision would prove unnecessary, it would be prudent to cover our backs. Sent from my KOB-L09 using Tapatalk RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Tim - 01-19-2018 (01-19-2018, 01:53 PM)sandaoguo Wrote:(01-19-2018, 01:50 PM)Tim Wrote:(01-19-2018, 01:44 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: So what happens if TEP decides to ban our FA officials, so that they can't post notification of treaty withdrawal? We should probably protect ourselves against Balderite tactics, and say that withdrawal just requires posting a public notice, rather than specifically of the forums of the region that probably is now hostile to us if we're trying to repeal the treaty That's pretty fair honestly. I've relayed the matter to the TRR and TEP Diplomatic Staff and I'm hoping we'll have an answer on the change as soon as possible. I can't imagine it's one anybody would oppose, especially given TSP's circumstances for desiring it. RE: [FA Thing] The January Accords - Roavin - 01-19-2018 (01-19-2018, 01:40 PM)Rikutso Wrote: Regarding Article 1.1, what defines the region's "domestic regional laws"? I recognize that it was meant to prevent a Lazarus-type situation, but I don't feel that it's specific enough. How could we judge what is legal and what isn't legal based on another region's laws? By using proper judgement and reading their laws if needed. I don't know what other answer could possibly be given to this, tbh. But really, the likelihood of us having to interpret the other region's laws is pretty much 0. |