(10-20-2016, 03:04 PM)Belschaft Wrote: I'm not sure how prohibiting people from creating their own, alternative "TSP" forums is a contravention of either free assembly or free speech. I'm also surprised at your change of mind, considering how you responded to other people creating their own forum for TSP in the past.

First, you would have to be consistent and then also claim this same restriction for shared Google Drive folders, Discord servers like the MoRA server or the SPSF server, or even temporary IRC channels to collaborate on a piece of legislation. That's obviously silly. Or, you would have to be able to justify why forums are so much different than all those other media that they must be banned while others are not, and I'm certain you can't make a case for that.

Second, banning the use of other communication media to talk about TSP issues is not just unenforcable, it's also outside of the jurisdiction of TSP.

Third, if you made the implication I think you made, then ... that's disingenuous and you know it <3  

Fourth, while banning other forums is outside of the jurisdiction, their use can be discouraged by sensible legislation. The legislation that Tsu has proposed isn't perfect yet (which is why we're all debating it), but as proposed a good step in that direction. Extant and emerging parties won't need a separate forum or such, because our region provides them the appropriate tool for that kind of collaboration in-house (and, in fact, in a more convenient matter). Trying to add a section to ban something that can't be banned to legislation that already sensibly discourages that same thing makes no sense.

Fifth, the APC has wanted their own sub-forum for months, and TIL has already agreed to move. The two extant parties are on board as is, so ... what's the problem?

(The reason TIL has a forum in the first place is because we wanted a place for collaboration, just like the APC does, and Glen likes playing with forum software, so ... we had a forum. Why that's so conspiratorial is beyond me.)