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Real Time is a weekly panel discussion that gathers prominent participants from the South Pacific and addresses the latest events in the region. This week we are joined by representatives from prominent nations to discuss the Ryccian Crisis and its implications to the region.

Stefano Vannelli: Hello everyone, and welcome to the very first edition of Real Time. I am your host, Stefano Vannelli, two-term President of Kringalia and now the one responsible for following up on the news in the South Pacific. I am glad to be here with an astounding panel. First, he is veteran diplomat and has been working at the Resentinian Foreign Service for the past 10 years. Carl Walters! Our next guest is a renowned international relations professor and is currently a Sporaltryan diplomat. Please welcome Juvela Karesinda.

Juvela Karesinda: Thank you for having me.

Stefano Vannelli: He is a graduate from Daonlathas Law School and served as Mayer of Accio. Please welcome Wallace Vislerno.

Wallace Vislerno: Thank you.

Stefano Vannelli: And last but not least, he is a Sergeant and media liaison from the Farengeto military. Albert Giles!

Albert Giles: Glad to be here.

Stefano Vannelli: Let's begin with the news of the day: the Ryccian Crisis.

Juvela Karesinda: Oh Christ.

Stefano Vannelli: Will the negotiations succeed? Or should we expect war anytime soon?

Carl Walters: That depends on how much National Sovereignty the SCO intends to Violate

Wallace Vislerno: Eh... A very sensitive case, if I recall.

Stefano Vannelli: Do you think the SCO is in the right? Or should if have tried to work with Qvait and its original Six-Party Talks?

Albert Giles: With the unexpected twist of their acceptance of our treaty, the chance of war us increasingly unlikely

Wallace Vislerno: Both.

Juvela Karesinda: Qvait's talks were highly unorganized.

Albert Giles: As explained by our government before, those talks were a mess. They would have be hostile, unproductive and utterly futile. Not to mention it was hosted with the clear intent of forcing our surrender.

Wallace Vislerno: Yes, that was a mess. Qvait did not even tell the host nation we were going to have talks. Very unorganized for me.

Carl Walters: Of course, but the SCO went out of it's way to target a country just coming out of a civil war. There was no precedent or need to damage Ryccia any further.

Juvela Karesinda: Those talks would violate our diplomatic sovereignty.

Stefano Vannelli: In all fairness, aren't the SCO talks designed to defeat Ryccia?

Juvela Karesinda: No.

Carl Walters: Yes

Juvela Karesinda: They are designed to help make Ryccia a stable nation. At that point, the SCO would pull out.

Wallace Vislerno: It can be either yes or no. Either the SCO wants to kill us or help us.

Carl Walters: Ryccia would have been perfectly fine without any foreign interference

Albert Giles: Hardly.

Juvela Karesinda: The federal government had no clue mass riots were taking place within it's own country. That is hardly "perfectly fine".

Stefano Vannelli: But just how much can the SCO do? It's one thing to agree to talk, but is a final agreement really possible?

Albert Giles: The Ryccian region has been in constant civil war and rioting for months!

Wallace Vislerno: Sanctions were getting in the way. And if we did not agree, we would need to say hello to Mr War.

Juvela Karesinda: A final agreement is necessary for peace, and the SCO can do as much as is agreed upon.

Albert Giles: No one ever suggested jumping to war, despite those lies spread.

Wallace Vislerno: The national government did not know because in Nueva España there is no local media and the place is small and ignored.

Juvela Karesinda: War is an unnecessary element. Yet mass rioting surely should have taken notice earlier on?

Wallace Vislerno: Yet Sporaltryus uses it every time.

Stefano Vannelli: Let's consider that for a moment. Ryccia couldn't see that riots were taking place. If that is the case, how can the IOC determine whether Ryccia is truly stable?

Juvela Karesinda: Jesus, what about your federal inspectors?

Albert Giles: "no local media"? Does your country live in the middle ages?

Juvela Karesinda: Indeed. Even a radio is used in rural areas of Sporaltryus.

Wallace Vislerno: Actually, the division Cia itself tried to get in, but was denied access. Then they began investigation themselves.

Albert Giles: Social media, radio, even word of mouth for gods sake. Does none speak to anyone in Ryccia? Ryccia can't even tell if it's own country is stable and you expect is to believe it's stable?

Juvela Karesinda: And why were they denied access?

Wallace Vislerno: Not in Nueva España. The only local media there are newspapers that don't even get printed outside the province.

Juvela Karesinda: Not even the government reads the newspaper?

Stefano Vannelli: But Wallace, Nueva España already had a history of instability. Why didn't the government keep a closer eye on it? Remember the first Ryccian crisis?

Albert Giles: So you're saying the province doesn't have any communications in any form? Not even internet?

Wallace Vislerno: Yes, but after the report in March, we thought things were stable. And they do have internet, but a lot of people in that province are not engaged in social media.

Juvela Karesinda: You thought? You didn't bother a check-up? Inspectors? Park Service? Police didn't call anyone? Rioters didn't post to social media?

Albert Giles: No social media posting? No phone calls to outside friends and family? How does no one know what's going on? A simple stroll through the goddamn streets?

Stefano Vannelli: I'm sure the SCO is pleased about the timing of these riots, though. It strengthens their case on the need for intervention.

Carl Walters: Yes, some could argue the news was rather conveniently timed

Albert Giles: It only proved the SCO's case further

Juvela Karesinda: Highly.

Wallace Vislerno: We thought they were okay. And they do have phones. They talk to friends and everything. Wonder why? And the police is against them. Why would they call the police? And rioters posting to social media? Our investigation found that Nueva España held a block over social media. They just found this just now. They sent it to me right now. And it did, it sadly did.

Albert Giles: And no one noticed any of this?

Juvela Karesinda: So this province was effectively it's own country?

Albert Giles: An entire province completely shuts itself down and no one sees anything?

Juvela Karesinda: Why didn't the federal government notice the social media block?

Wallace Vislerno: Nope. It was just a small province, ignored by the government. And we did not notice. Is that the statistics show that not that many actually are in social media, so we thought they were okay.

Juvela Karesinda: Why didn't the police bother to call higher-ups which would call higher-ups and continue the chain to the federal government?

Carl Walters: Why would police bother calling higher ups if their getting paid off?

Stefano Vannelli: One important thing to consider is that the resolution only sets broad outlines. Once in Government Islands the delegations will have to work out details. The nuclear arsenal was a point of contention. Will Ryccia agree to dismantle part of it?

Wallace Vislerno: Yes, we will dismantle part of it. And no. They broke the rule and no one reported.

Juvela Karesinda: Only part? Why stop there?

Stefano Vannelli: Last I checked Ryccia had around 3000 nuclear warheads. How much will be enough for both sides?

Albert Giles: Farengeto currently seeks a minimum 98% reduction of Ryccia's current 15,000 nuclear devices.

Wallace Vislerno: How about Sporaltryus huh? It sure has a nuclear arsenal. And we believe around 1,000?

Stefano Vannelli: 15000? Alright, my estimate was way off.

Juvela Karesinda: The size of the Sporaltryan nuclear arsenal is nothing to be concerned about. Constant dismantling is in progress.

Wallace Vislerno: Then what is the size of it? Right now?

Juvela Karesinda: Nothing to be concerned about.

Carl Walters: Oh yes, because Sporaltryus is just doing a fantastic job at keeping track of their nukes

Wallace Vislerno: We demand to know.

Carl Walters: How long has the border been closed now? A month?

Juvela Karesinda: We re-opened the border.

Carl Walters: We have?

Juvela Karesinda: Our side is open.

Wallace Vislerno: We had 16,000 nuclear weapons. Then they were reduced to the current 3,000 in the 60's-80's.

Juvela Karesinda: And how the hell did you manage to get 16 000 warheads without anyone else noticing or saying something? How did you get all the nuclear material for it?

Wallace Vislerno: We have huge deposits of uranium.

Albert Giles: And who the hell did you need 15,000 nuclear warheads for? Were you trying to annihilate the entire South Pacific!?

Juvela Karesinda: Enough to blow apart the world!

Wallace Vislerno: No. We just felt that other nations might have it too, so we made a lot of weapons. Also, we were power-hungry in those times.

Juvela Karesinda: Power-hungry Ryccia? It's a shock that we aren't under Ryccian control right now if you had 15 000 warheads.

Albert Giles: A lot is an understatement. How many billions did you waste preparing a global doomsday device?

Wallace Vislerno: It was to also scare other nations into not declaring war. And we wasted... $600 million per warhead.

Albert Giles: ... NINE TRILLION DOLLATS IN NUCLEAR WARHEADS!?

Juvela Karesinda: You spent 9.6 trillion on warheads?

Wallace Vislerno: Over the span of 2 decades, you can afford such build-up.

*Albert Giles steps away for a moment to calm down*

Carl Walters: This is almost as bad as the Six-Party talks would have been

Stefano Vannelli: Alright, before we change topics. In less than a paragraph, will the negotiations work. Yes or no, and why? Carl?

Wallace Vislerno: Maybe yes, maybe not, it all depends on how it goes.

Carl Walters: Yes, but only because of an excessive amount of foreign pressure on a nation just leaving civil war. 10,000 South Pacific Dollars says none of what happened to Ryccia would have happened to Kringalia or Sporaltryus in the same situation.

Stefano Vannelli: Juvela?

Juvela Karesinda: The talks must work, but I do not see them to work.

Stefano Vannelli: Alright, let's change topics now. Laiwan's removal from the SSU. Was it legal? Is it desirable?

Wallace Vislerno: We have no Laiwanese representative. So, this is of no concern for us.

Juvela Karesinda: Sporaltryus cannot say without a biased opinion. But we feel it is the correct thing to do.

Albert Giles: But until a few days ago you were allies. Do the Ryccians have no comments?

Wallace Vislerno: We don't now thanks to Resolution 002.

Carl Walters: Attempting to get rid of Laiwan because of the actions of it's neighbor makes almost no sense whatsoever

Juvela Karesinda: It is because of the action of Laiwan that they did with Ryccia.

Stefano Vannelli: Since Sporaltryus also asked that Laiwan be included in Resolution 002, is the removal truly justified, or just a Sporaltryan isolation tactic?

Carl Walters: Next thing you know, Sporaltryus is going to try and Remove Darkstrait because they allied with us.

Wallace Vislerno: Sorry to object here, but supporting a terrorist organization is justified if they are socialists?! This is an outrage!

Carl Walters: No, but, everyone deserves a voice

Juvela Karesinda: Sporaltryan plans for Foreign Relations are very much secret.

Stefano Vannelli: It's no secret that Sporaltryus is not a fan of Ryccia or Laiwan

Wallace Vislerno: And that's why Sporaltryus is a non-trustable nation to us.

Juvela Karesinda: Oh, so revealing national secrets that would undermine our international status would make us trustable?

Carl Walters: It's no secret the Sporaltryus isn't a fan of anyone

Juvela Karesinda: My apologies, Carl, but we have just celebrated a year of non-isolation.

Carl Walters: And that means, what, exactly? Escalating tensions to the verge of war? Have we forgotten Baliish so quickly?

Stefano Vannelli: On that note, and everyone feel free to give their input, the SSU has been prominent for its absence during the crisis. Should it have done more? The way I see it, it let the SCO gain a huge amount of power in the international stage.

Juvela Karesinda: It should have.

Stefano Vannelli: Albert? Carl?

Carl Walters: It's shouldn't have. What the SCO did was bad enough. The last thing Ryccia and Laiwan need are two International Organizations interfering in Domestic affairs, much less one.

Albert Giles: Domestic affairs? Ryccia isn't even stable enough to have domestic affairs!

Stefano Vannelli: The SCO was going to interfere anyways. At least Ryccia would've had a more sympathetic voice in the SSU, right?

Juvela Karesinda: With Sporaltryus at the de facto head of the SSU, that would be unlikely.

Carl Walters: No. If you think the SCO was bad, the SSU would have tried to force Ryccia to become Socialist

Albert Giles: Ryccia's national government failed to resolve it's foreign and internal issues, and the SCO saw no choice but to act before someone triggers that ticking doomsday device.

Juvela Karesinda: With 3 000 warheads, not intervening could result in detonations!

Carl Walters: But it did! The Civil War ended! The corruption in Nueva España was found by a National News Paper, not by the IOC! Ryccia could have easily solved it's issues now, but the SCO had to interfere.

Albert Giles: On the issue of Laiwan however, my government tells me we have no comment at this time.

Stefano Vannelli: Let's be honest, though. The SCO is willing to work with Ryccia and help if be stable. Kringalia has even included a provision to help it in case of attacks. How would an SSU intervention look like?

Carl Walters: "Intervention". It would look more like an occupation

Juvela Karesinda: Oh really. And how would you know that?

Carl Walters: Because there are reasons you don't see people asking the SSU for help

Juvela Karesinda: It's because the SSU hasn't taken more of an active role in international politics.

Carl Walters: And that's because, Stefano, the SSU would more likely "Provide troops for Stabilization"

*Juvela Karesinda chuckles*

Stefano Vannelli: SSU nations do have more extreme policies. Take Bruuma, for one. It has rather extreme policies towards WMDs.

Carl Walters: Or not. No one actually knows with Bruuma. I don't think I've ever met a Resentinian who's stepped foot in Bruuma.

Stefano Vannelli: Whether or not it actually has WMDs, it doesn't explicitly condemn them.

Albert Giles: Even Farengeto has issues with these radical socialists, having only recently eliminated a planned socialist coup.

Stefano Vannelli: Yes, Farengeto seems to have gone down a more militaristic route in dealing with that attempt. We now have a military government there, right?

Albert Giles: Provisionally, yes. As well as a government formed by remnants of the former final Parliament.

Carl Walters: "Final" Parliament? Ohh, Enlighten me.

Stefano Vannelli: Albert, you might know more about this. How has the regime change impacted the human rights situation in Farengeto?

Albert Giles: Final Parliament of the Second Republic, I should say.

Carl Walters: Ahh, so we are working on a Third Republic?

Albert Giles: As stated during the dissolution of Parliament, we seek a transition to a new more stable government equipped to handle further crises in the South Pacific. Constitution drafting isn't instant of course, so it will take some time. Other that a crackdown on militant socialists and nationalists, as well as the deepen conspiracy involving the assassination of the leader of the opposition, life continues largely as normal in Farengeto.

Carl Walters: So, Farengeto currently has no Constitution?

Albert Giles: Officially, no. However most laws and rights of the former constitution remain in place.

Carl Walters: And Farengeto somehow felt the need to impose an International Commission on another nation, given it's current state? I'm starting to get the feeling that Farengeto needs a Commission too. What do you think Juvela?

Albert Giles: There is no internal instability, the hostile leaders in Parliament have been arrested and life has returned to normal.

Juvela Karesinda: Farengeto is showing more stability than Ryccia.

Carl Walters: Nationwide crackdowns, an assassination attempt, and no constitution shows more stability that Ryccia? What is Sporaltryus' definition of Stability?

Juvela Karesinda: What is your definition, since an entire province in the dark seems to be stable.

Albert Giles: An assassination two months ago. No official constitution due to a new one being written as we speak. And arrests on individuals who were about to launch an imminent attack.

Stefano Vannelli: Do keep in mind the long-term trend. Farengeto has swiftly dealt with instability. Ryccia has been coping with it for a long time, and still can't handle it.

Albert Giles: Even in Cephio negotiations are underway with local leaders, with more autonomy already promised. We even have a provisional budget being finalized right now.

Carl Walters: Oh, exciting.

Stefano Vannelli: Even if other nations deemed Farengeto unstable, it's extremely unlikely that it would receive the Ryccian treatment. Kringalia, Awesomiasa and Sporaltryus would probably protect it at the Southern Council.

Carl Walters: Exactly!

Stefano Vannelli: Well, it's been over an hour now. Thanks so much for joining our panel. It has been quite a pleasure. Do you have any final words?

Carl Walters: Nope. My points were made. Ryccia is oppressed by the International Community.

Albert Giles: It's been an interesting discussion, glad I could make it.

Stefano Vannelli: Juvela?

Juvela Karesinda: I hope that a peaceful solution is held. Otherwise, good luck to all.

Stefano Vannelli: Thanks again for joining our panel. With this I bid you all good night.

This log was edited for ortography and clarity in the flow of the conversation. While some words have slightly different spelling and some interventions have been placed in different order, the core content of the conversation has not been altered. An original copy of the discussion may be provided upon request.

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I would like to correct here that Ryccia had its nuclear build-up in the 60's-80's, not that the majority of our arsenal was dismantled at that time.

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