| GC: Cormac's Constitutional Proposal |
I am an eternal pessimist. I'm not even commenting on the merits of your proposal-- I haven't even really read it. It just really bothers me that we purposefully set the time for the GC, and now people are just doing it early. We all said we wanted an organized process, and this isn't organized. I don't understand why people can't just wait until the GC starts to post their drafts. Starting early has consequences nobody is really seeing. In addition to disorganization, you've got people attaching their names to proposals (making stakes higher by inherently making things personal), and you've got drafts now that are going to warp the elections. If you run for office, is your proposal suddenly going to become more authoritative if you win your election? Are nominees going to start saying which proposals they prefer, injecting electoral politics into a process that's supposed to be broad and foster reconciliation?
That's the way I think, and it's important for *somebody* to point out why disorganized chaos might cause problems. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk (02-10-2016, 04:24 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: I'm not even commenting on the merits of your proposal-- I haven't even really read it. It just really bothers me that we purposefully set the time for the GC, and now people are just doing it early. If in the end we get a system that people like and the majority can agree on, then who cares?
(02-10-2016, 05:21 PM)Wolf Wrote:(02-10-2016, 04:24 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: I'm not even commenting on the merits of your proposal-- I haven't even really read it. It just really bothers me that we purposefully set the time for the GC, and now people are just doing it early. Broad reconciliation is our goal, unless that's changed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I don't see how what I just said is opposed to the idea of reconciliation.
(02-10-2016, 04:24 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: I am an eternal pessimist. I'm not even commenting on the merits of your proposal-- I haven't even really read it. It just really bothers me that we purposefully set the time for the GC, and now people are just doing it early. We all said we wanted an organized process, and this isn't organized. I don't understand why people can't just wait until the GC starts to post their drafts. Starting early has consequences nobody is really seeing. In addition to disorganization, you've got people attaching their names to proposals (making stakes higher by inherently making things personal), and you've got drafts now that are going to warp the elections. If you run for office, is your proposal suddenly going to become more authoritative if you win your election? Are nominees going to start saying which proposals they prefer, injecting electoral politics into a process that's supposed to be broad and foster reconciliation? Maybe next time you should try saying that, instead of accusing me of pushing an individual agenda. I've withdrawn the proposal until after the Great Council starts, because I was already sympathetic to this point of view, and when you stopped acting like a jerk you convinced me. Maybe you should try not acting like a jerk more often. |
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