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Also, let's analyze this gun, shall we?
[Image: WVoR8Sl.jpg] What does it look like? To foreigners and us Americans alike that have no knowledge of this gun, looks like a military gun, right? A deadly weapon able to kill many? A weapon used by armies and other similar authorities? While this may be the case, it's not the entire truth in America. I present to you the AR-15, a gun that looks like soldiers use it that the government allows civilians to use. This gun was used not only in the Orlando attacks, but in Sandy Hook and other mass shootings. You are giving an average civilian, especially in this case a deadly weapon, deadlier than its cousins and supposed to be used in warzones, that can be used to massacre entire crowds of people, and worse, without almost any regulations AT ALL. What angers me the most is that the FBI was aware of him, they were aware of his actions, but still let a person in their list buy a gun. Suspected terrorists can be barred from flying, but not from buying guns?! What kind of horrid hypocrisy is this?!
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If your going to make an argument, get your facts straight, The gun used in Orlando was NOT an AR-15. It was a Sig Sauer MCX. (http://www.youngcons.com/liberal-media-r...-sauer-mcx). Two totally different guns. An AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16 differing only in capability that the M-16 has automating firing capabilties and the AR-15 you need to pull the trigger for each round. There are PLENTY of other legal semi-automatics out there that do the same thing, but the "advantage" of the AR-15 is that you can buy magazines that hold 30-100 rounds that shouldn't be sold. Kits go for as little as $15 to convert an AR-15 to an M-16 and give it auto fire capabilities (I actually own an AR-15 and have the kit, tho it's not installed in the rifle because that's a quick ticket to meet bubba in the penitentiary). I do not hunt with the AR-15. I use it for target shooting only and it's kept under lock and key at the gun club I belong to. Again. Three teen stepsons and the firm belief that if you don't put yourself in certain situations, nothing happens.
I feel the kits to make the guns automatic should be strictly regulated, but the piece is a strip of metal, not a gun, plans are on the internet and you can make it at home with minor tools. Once again. It doesn't matter what gun is used. It doesn't matter if I own a gun. What matters is this shooter, already on federal watch lists, walked into a gun store owned by a former law enforcement official a week after he was refused to even buy body armor and still passed the security checks and was sold the gun. He should have been locked up right there. And my feeling is just one more person in that bar with a carry permit would have limited the damage in THIS CASE more than any prohibition. People who are gonna kill are gonna kill, Period. YOu can take everything away and people will still find a way.
QD stop making that argument it makes no sense whatsoever. At the end of the day we can't 100% stop people blowing up a plane yet does that mean we should give up on all restrictions regarding travel and just say that since we can't stop it 100% we shouldn't at least try and prevent some? No one is saying that we're going to get rid of all guns what we're saying is we should make it harder or better yet prevent criminals and mentally unstable people from getting guns. We are also saying that weapons that can kill how may people in a few seconds should be banned as you don't require that for hunting or self-defence. What is wrong with a basic gun and what is wrong with prevent unstable people from buying a military weapon?
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QD, I'll concede that one. But the Sig Saucer still looks like military.
http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uplo...6/14/8.png We should ban all big guns like these and allow small ones for personal use. It's not like you're going to use that big metal stick to hunt or to carry it in the streets. And the military and similar authorities could make a better use. Look at Australia. Or the UK. They introduced strict gun laws and gun-related violence diminished. Time doesn't lie. Neither do facts.
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Local Council Member(April 24-August 11) Court Justice of TSP(August 15-December 7)
I think you're missing what QD is saying. He is not saying there shouldn't be new Restrictions, in fact he does want more restrictions. He just doesn't think Banning Assault Rifles outright will do anything. That is where the debate is, Outright Ban vs. New Restrictions, not no Restrictions vs. New ones. That fight is with the NRA, which is an entirely different fish.
My deal is I just don't think New Restrictions will stop enough. There have been 998 "massacres" since Sandy Hook, think about how many have actually been nationally reported? 16(based on Obama's press speeches about them) just about, out of 998. And a significant majority involved Assault Rifles. Yes, we can place new Restrictions, but how much would new Restrictions stop? Not all of these people are like the Orlando shooter, who was a blatant homophobe and a domestic abuser. Some of these guys are just normal people who just have one bad day. Because that's all it takes. Just one bad day. Sure, some will still do it, and will try to get these guns illegally under a ban, but how many people do you know with illegal weapons, or know how to get them? I sure don't know any, nor do I know how. A ban on Assault rifles is the only way to insure that shit like Orlando, and all the other massacres, stops happening, or at least drops significantly. I do understand that regulations would help, but I don't think they would help enough, to cause a dent nationally in massacres, or in Gun Violence Deaths overall.
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We can't take the guns away. However, I would implement stricter regulations and ban the production and sale of assault rifles to civilians.
I don't think anyone ever said that. It's a made up fact. Just like most Muslims are good people, most fun owners are responsible. It's a matter of working out who.
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A ban on assault rifles would do a lot to help, but we also need to restrict access to semiautomatic pistols as well.
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