I hereby submit this as something that I find to be a more effective way of dealing with CoIs rather than making weird restrictive laws that are full of holes. I'll let Rebs decide whether this constitutes a competing law to this (I can think of good arguments in either direction).
Elections Act, Article 2 Wrote:(3) To be eligible to be included in a voting ballot, any candidate must post a campaign in an area designated by the Election Commission. The campaign must prominently include a truthful declaration of all potential conflicts of interest the candidate may have within and outside of the South Pacific.
What I said about it elsewhere:
(07-18-2018, 07:52 AM)Roavin Wrote: How about something like this: Candidates are required to post campaigns for elections they run in, and this campaign must prominently declare any potential conflicts of interest that they may have. That way, CoIs are required (rather than just "tradition") and it's right in the voter's face as they make a decision, rather than in some other thread.
Another thing to consider later is to add a requirement that any elected and appointed officials keep an up-to-date conflict of interest report. This could be done as a separate accountability act, with things taken from a prior (ill-fated) idea I had a while back. That can be done in two steps, however.
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There’s no reason why we can’t have both.
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There's no reason why we would need or want both.
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(07-29-2018, 12:06 PM)Belschaft Wrote: There's no reason why we would need or want both.
For the purposes of the competing bills question, we *could* have both laws on our books.
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(07-29-2018, 06:16 AM)Roavin Wrote: I hereby submit this as something that I find to be a more effective way of dealing with CoIs rather than making weird restrictive laws that are full of holes. I'll let Rebs decide whether this constitutes a competing law to this (I can think of good arguments in either direction).
Elections Act, Article 2 Wrote:(3) To be eligible to be included in a voting ballot, any candidate must post a campaign in an area designated by the Election Commission. The campaign must prominently include a truthful declaration of all potential conflicts of interest the candidate may have within and outside of the South Pacific.
What I said about it elsewhere:
(07-18-2018, 07:52 AM)Roavin Wrote: How about something like this: Candidates are required to post campaigns for elections they run in, and this campaign must prominently declare any potential conflicts of interest that they may have. That way, CoIs are required (rather than just "tradition") and it's right in the voter's face as they make a decision, rather than in some other thread.
Another thing to consider later is to add a requirement that any elected and appointed officials keep an up-to-date conflict of interest report. This could be done as a separate accountability act, with things taken from a prior (ill-fated) idea I had a while back. That can be done in two steps, however.
This is the best suggestion (for me) out of all amendments to the Elections Act. Escade's draft in the other thread is also good. Lastly, your suggestion at the bottom is good, though I don't know where to add the bit of keeping an up-to-date CoI. Supported!
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It's been talked about having a subforum in the Assembly somewhere.
If we do require some form of running CoI, I'd prefer that we make it a requirement not to just link to the running CoI. The point would be to make the CoI reports front and center of a campaign, not just to hide it somewhere else.
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(07-30-2018, 11:07 AM)Rebeltopia Wrote: It's been talked about having a subforum in the Assembly somewhere.
If we do require some form of running CoI, I'd prefer that we make it a requirement not to just link to the running CoI. The point would be to make the CoI reports front and center of a campaign, not just to hide it somewhere else.
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Agreed - if it's a running CoI, updates to it should be forcibly in a new post (not necessarily thread) so that it "triggers" people to see.
I motion the amendment in the OP to a vote.
Regarding the running CoI, let's make that a separate thread to discuss. I do agree that it's a good idea.
(08-16-2018, 05:52 AM)Roavin Wrote: I motion the amendment in the OP to a vote.
Regarding the running CoI, let's make that a separate thread to discuss. I do agree that it's a good idea.
I second the motion.
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