Fellow Legislators,
While I believe that the Assembly forums is currently, I would say, in a good and acceptable state, there are weaknesses and loopholes in which I think need to be addressed. Those issues have lead to a pileup of threads in the Assembly forums and archives, without a concrete, long-term solution to deal with the pileups. One of the things I want to happen is for a Legislator to not be able to find the things they need as a result of poor organization. Aware of the fact that there are many experienced administrators in this Assembly, may I ask that Legislators contribute their ideas and experience to together form a reorganization plan, which will in turn create an organized Assembly.
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What kinds of things are difficult to find? We have a search function, threads can be pinned, and active threads are automatically at the front of the forum. Is there that much of a problem...?
Our existing archives are basically a 1-to-1 mapping of our forum structure. We include link sub forums in areas like the Assembly that take you to the corresponding archives.
What other model did you have in mind?
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Amerion
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If I may, I will repost and expand on what I have previously suggested in Discord:
At present, the Assembly operates using the following system:
Assembly Templates:
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Designation of bills — referred to in the below codes as '(Code)' — aid in the organisation of the Legislative History and the Assembly Record. These codes are arranged sequentially and organised by the year, month, and order in which the bill is brought to a vote.
For example, ' A1901.01' indicates the bill is the first vote (.01) of January 2019 (1901). Similarly, the sixth vote of March 2020 would be record as ' A2003.06'. |
I propose the Assembly Administration Team considers a significant expansion of this system wherein every past bill is retitled with a new designation as the prefix to the title.
Let us use this code, ' A.A.LPA.05', as an example:
By doing so, if a Legislator wishes to locate all threads relating to the Legislative Procedure Act, they need only to use the search function of the forum, narrow the search parameters to 'search titles only' and search for ' LPA' in the Assembly's sub-forum and archive. The results page will show the discussion and voting threads of every bill relating to the relevant Act.
Is this a suitable solution?
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2019, 12:22 AM by Amerion.)
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(03-18-2019, 12:21 AM)Amerion Wrote: Is this a suitable solution?
If we were to follow that system, will the code of the original bill be A.LPA? If I were to submit the 20th amendment to the Legislative Procedure Act, will its code be A.A.LPA.20?
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(03-18-2019, 06:45 AM)Bzerneleg Wrote: (03-18-2019, 12:21 AM)Amerion Wrote: Is this a suitable solution?
If we were to follow that system, will the code of the original bill be A.LPA? If I were to submit the 20th amendment to the Legislative Procedure Act, will its code be A.A.LPA.20?
Ah, yes. Good catch
The original example is flawed as typing in 'A.LPA' would only bring you to the amendments to the LPA rather than all the bills relating to it. The code should be redone. Using A.LPA.A.20 as a new example:
I think thats over-complicating things...
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(03-18-2019, 08:25 AM)Rebeltopia Wrote: I think thats over-complicating things...
I don't think so. This new system would allow older Assembly debates and stuff to be more easily searched and referenced, making the Assembly more accessible.
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Until 6 months from now when we have 4 "A.LPA.A.20"s and 2 " A.LPA.A.23"s and everything gets screwy. This works for the Court, but not so much for the Assembly.
It wouldnt make the information any easier or harder to find. We should be titling our threads "[Amendment] Legislative Procedure Act" anyway.
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[6:11 PM] Seraph: It's the ORCSue of all our legal knowledge.
[6:11 PM] Nakari: its magical. must have been created with sORCSery.
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Roavin: islands is jealous of the entire package
Satan: ^ this
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I think the current bill coding system works fine, although what's better would be naming them based on the order of introduction, so if the first bill is introduced, it would be "A.1". If it's the 20th bill, it would be "A.20". To make it easier for Legislators to find what they want, we can organize legislations into different groups based on their subject or policy area. For example, all nomination and reconfirmation threads would be grouped together under [Nominations]. Legislations regarding constitutional laws will be grouped together and the same applies to legislations regarding general laws.
BZERNELEG
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