Leaders' Questions, 14 July 2022

Deputy Speaker: Order, order, shall we start? For this session, the Speaker will not be present, so you have me today instead. We welcome, today, representatives of the youth Parties of those represented by this Parliament, though silence must be maintained from them throughout. If they cannot maintain silence, they will be ordered to leave the chamber. Order! Today's questions go to the Leaders of the three Parties not in Government in this chamber, the floor for questions is open to any MP anywhere in the chamber apart from me and the Leader of the Party they were asking, which I will organise, will be called to respond. The Prime Minister does not answer questions at this session and, hence, she does not join us in the chamber this afternoon, she is joining us via Parliament TV this afternoon and she is very welcome.


Order, order! I also welcome their Excllencies, the President and Vice-President to Parliament TV, they are watching after reports this week of poaching attempts made by certain Parties in the October 2022 race against other Parties. Order! Members might like to cease conversations and put phones away now and really listen to and focus on what I am about to say. At no point is it ever acceptable for competing Parties to poach each other during the course of election campaigning. I won't accept it, the Speaker won't accept it, the Prime Minister and her Deputies will not accept it and the President and his Vice-President will not accept it. Any more Parties caught poaching during the course of the election will be disqualified from the election race.

Parliament: Hear, hear!

Deputy Speaker: Order! Please do remember it is our first week of our fourth term of 2022A, this month's business emphasises, significantly, the business of the Advanced Humanitarian League, though other questions will be tolerated, Advanced Humanitarian League business will be prioritised. We will, on that note, start with questions to the Leader of the Advanced Humanitarian League. Question number one, Dale Doyle.

Dale Doyle: Question number one, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. This morning, I revised this term's business and met with my Party advisors to see what can be done and what needs to be debated here. I will have further such meetings later today.

Deputy Speaker: Dale Doyle.

Dale Doyle: Madam Deputy Speaker, the Right Honourable gentleman-

Deputy Speaker: Order! I apologise to the Honourable gentleman. Youth members will put their mobile phones on silent and leave them alone for the duration of the session. Dale Doyle.

Dale Doyle: No need to apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker, for doing your job, which you do so well.

Parliament: Hear!

Dale Doyle: Madam Deputy Speaker, the Right Honourable gentleman is still campaigning to ban flogging. This is something not practiced but not yet removed from the Constitution. Madam Deputy Speaker, the Right Honourable gentleman is also competing in October 2022 as we speak to be the next Prime Minister. In light of this, Madam Deputy Speaker, what does the Right Honourable gentleman hope to do in relation to flogging and how long will it take?

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question, it is an excellent question and he is quite right, I am competing in October 2022 so I am well aware many of those I hope will vote me into Government later this year are watching me here, today, very closely, and I am very aware that is what the Honourable gentleman was getting at.

Dale Doyle: (Nods).

Harold Garcia: Madam Deputy Speaker, the Honourable gentleman is correct, flogging is still legal in Qaweritoyu but it is never enforced, flogging is a part of the Constitution which is seen as unenforceable, however, that still means, should any Prime Minister or Government wish to, they are entitled to enforce it and the day they do so is a sorry day for our nation, so why not remove it from the Constitution entirely? There is no harm done either way. It's not enforced anyway but a removal ensures an extra layer of protection for those who have committed minor offenses. Madam Deputy Speaker, I am campaigning for a Referendum on the removal of flogging from the Constitution and then for a total ban on flogging in the nation.

Jan Hampton: Point of Order!

Deputy Speaker: Point of Order, Jan Hampton.

Jan Hampton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have changed my question based on what was just heard so my question is no longer the one printed on the Order Paper, is that OK?

Deputy Speaker: I thank the Honourable lady for her Point of Order. That is fine and I will facilitate the change of question now so as to not forget about it. Jan Hampton.

Jan Hampton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Right Honourable gentleman has been Prime Minister in the past. Why did he not ban flogging then, whilst he had the power to?

Parliament: Ooooh! Hear!

Deputy Speaker: Order, order! Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, I thank the Honourable lady for her question. I just want to remind her that neither Government I led held the established Majority, both Governments were Coalition Governments and the latter of those two was a Coalition with my current Party, which I led as soon as I crossed the floor and joined it. In a Coalition Government, as you will be aware, Madam Deputy Speaker, two or more Parties hold Government, the Leaders of these Parties have to decide which of them will be Prime Minister and for how long during the intended, elected term and then have to agree on what parts of their manifestos they are willing to work together on and leave out the parts that cause disagreement so I did not have the authority as Prime Minister the last time I was Prime Minister to make my own decisions, on those matters, every decision I was going to make had to pass the other Party Leader and flogging was an area of disagreement between our Parties so that didn't make our joint Government manifesto so now that I lead my Party alone, albeit as one of the two smallest Parties in this Parliament, I am free now to solely push for a Flogging Referendum and I also think it would benefit the nation to hold this Referendum before the election in October.

Marshall Matthew: Point of Order!

Deputy Speaker: Point of Order, Marshall Matthew.

Marshall Matthew: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. My question has now also changed in light of what was just heard. Is this OK?

Deputy Speaker: I also approve of the Honourable gentleman's question and I will facilitate it now. Marshall Matthew.

Marshall Matthew: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Does the Right Honourable gentleman not think having a Referendum will both upset the result of the Referendum and the ongoing election?

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question, it is a very valid question. Madam Deputy Speaker, we had two By-elections during the course of the ongoing election and they concluded without issue, so I cannot see why a Referendum will upset the result of the election if two By-elections, happening at the same time, did not upset the result of the election. Personally, no, I do not think having a Referendum during an ongoing election will upset either result.

Deputy Speaker: Courtney Brewer.

Courtney Brewer: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Right Honourable gentleman is campaigning for the Government to commission scientists in the region to come up with a vaccination against pain. This is ridiculous. A vaccine is a form of protection, training your immune system how to protect itself against something that does not include pain. Madam Deputy Speaker, this is the wording of his Party manifesto. What on earth is he talking about?

Deputy Speaker: Order, order, I am diverting the course of the session a bit to ask for the assistance of the Minister for Employment, Health and Safety and Social Security, Woody Lutz, on this issue, as he is the closest thing to an appointed Minister of Health in this Government. Minister.

Minister: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I was not expecting to be called in this way on this issue but I will do my best to assist you. The Honourable lady is quite right, you cannot train your immune system to protect you from pain. Pain, as a matter of fact, is a form of protection. Madam Deputy Speaker, when you feel pain, you do not actually feel it in the part of your body you injured, you feel it in your brain. Your brain realises damage has been done to the part of the body and creates the pain to make you leave it alone so it can get better. I feel the Right Honourable gentleman may be mixing up vaccines with pain relief. Pain relief, as well as any vaccine for pain, defeats the purpose for the pain in the first place and actually risks further damaging the body part. Madam Deputy Speaker, vaccinations for pain do not and never will exist, there is no such thing.

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Minister for his invited intervention. I live by a motto, you're only immune until you are not. Madam Deputy Speaker, if I may adjust it slightly for this situation, vaccinations against pain are only nonsense until they make sense.

Deputy Speaker: Vernon Chandler.

Vernon Chandler: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I find it deeply concerning that a former Prime Minister, who is now campaigning to be Prime Minister once again, does not know the difference between pain killers and vaccinations, not to mention the money he would spend on such research, much of that money coming from taxes. The Right Honourable gentleman seems firmly sure he is going to run a Referendum on banning flogging. What might be his budget for this Referendum?

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question. I do not need a budget for a Referendum because if I convince the Government to go ahead with the Referendum, the Government is running the Referendum, not me, I only proposed the idea and follow it religiously. I am, therefore, not the person spending the money on the Referendum, the Government is, furthermore, they need the budget, not me.

Deputy Speaker: Jeannie Wright.

Jeannie Wright: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Should the Right Honourable gentleman go ahead with his campaign for pain vaccinations, rather than pop down the chemist and get some pain killers, what does he expect the cost to be for the programme and roll out of the programme?

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: I have to wonder, Madam Deputy Speaker, if the Honourable lady was in la la land for the last few minutes. 

Jeannie Wright: (Shouting across the chamber) Hey, HEY!

Deputy Speaker: Orderrrrr! Order, Mr. Garcia, resume your seat, I am on my feet, you do know what that means.  ORDER! The Right Honourable gentleman is a senior member of this chamber, he is a former Prime Minister twice and he is a former member of the Higher Chamber. He does know better than to fuel a senseless argument with a junior member of this chamber. Drop it and move on. Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker, both to yourself and the Honourable lady. To answer her question as fully as I can, I do not, once again, need to know how much the whole process will cost, that is for the Government to organise, however, the research and testing would need to come first with roll out coming next, it will be optional to the public to take and they may encounter a small fee if they opt for it. We will want the whole process to be done right and that will need money, as much as is necessary.

Deputy Speaker: Margie Moss. 

Margie Moss: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I see the Right Honourable gentleman is campaigning to introduce laws to remove all other punishments from debtors and replace them with a prison term. I do understand our politics in the Tax Nobody Party can seem exaggerated at times but even I think our politics are not as exaggerated as that. Some people have a very deeply personal reason for being in debt and if you were to imprison them for that, their debt has not been worth a second of their time, you would rip their families and/or lives apart and even risk raising the rate os suicides in the country and in police custody, which is regrettable. Madam Deputy Speaker, does the Right Honourable gentleman have a heart?

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia. 

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable lady for her question. Of course I have a heart. Madam Deputy Speaker, debt is a rising issue in this country. There is plenty of support for debtors so anyone refusing these supports is damaging their own life. If we tighten the laws surrounding debt and repayment of hanging costs leading back to a stable system or income and payment for the person involved, less people will want to get into debt and so the rate of debt in the country will decrease once more.

Deputy Speaker: Gretchen Warren.

Gretchen Warren: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Right Honourable gentleman is campaigning once again for the Government to outlaw corporal and capital punishment. He did that last year! Madam Deputy Speaker, the Government was already complying last year when he brought up the topic. Why is the Right Honourable gentleman still campaigning on this issue? Is it just another way to waste money?

Deputy Speaker: Harold Garcia.

Harold Garcia: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Government were complying and are still complying but since I have been re-elected to this chamber and made my return to the Lower Chamber, I have not been and am not happy with the Government's currently-upheld laws on the matter, I think they need a further tightening and then I will be happy and can put the policy to rest. Until this issue is tightened, and I do not see it happening before the election, there is still a lot of work to be done.

Deputy Speaker: Order! I will now move to questions to the Leader of the Opposition. I will select three random questions from the Order Paper and call on those MPs to ask their question, after which I will call the Leader of the Opposition to respond to the question. Three questions for each Leader that remains, because this term is primarily for the Advanced Humanitarian League to present their issues to the Government. Pat Matthews, question number two.

Pat Matthews: Question two, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Deputy Speaker: Leader of the Opposition.

Leader of the Opposition: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I attended short meetings this morning ahead of the election in October and worked out in the Constituency. This afternoon, Madam Deputy Speaker, I will continue to campaign as I strive for a victory in October 2022.

Deputy Speaker: Pat Matthews.

Pat Matthews: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. My question is in relation to the Right Honourable lady's work in 2022A, and her Party's work, and what she will do if she is elected Prime Minister in October. The Right Honourable lady has been campaigning, this year, to abolish home carer credit. Madam Deputy Speaker, if the Right Honourable lady becomes Prime Minister in October, it is clear she will get to work straight away in abolishing home carer credit. Does she want anyone to be paid under her Administration and if so, how does she propose paying home carers?

Deputy Speaker: Leader of the Opposition.

Leader of the Opposition: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question. Something to keep in mind is that the process, when we take the Government and I become Prime Minister, will not be that quick. Madam Deputy Speaker, we need to be more careful in our transition to power than the Modern Marxist Party have had to be in Government because the Modern Marxist Party are only transitioning to a socialist system of Government from their predecessors in Government who were capitalists, and their process probably takes longer than the term they will get in Government so the bickering aside, what they've been doing the past five years is actually extraordinary and the whole Parliament should salute the attempt. 

Parliament: Hear!

Leader of the Opposition: Madam Deputy Speaker, we need to go slower, and the reason is that our effect, if we rush, will actually have the opposite effect to the Modern Marxist Party. We are abolishing taxes and making money for the people once again, if we go too quickly, our economy will not crash down, there will be no recession, our economy will inflate, there will be mass inflation and it will be very difficult to get ourselves back from that point. However, with time, we will manage to abolish all taxes and extra costs in a manageable way and that does include home carer credit. Madam Deputy Speaker, home carer credit is currently through the roof, we are getting rid of it altogether. Home carers will still be paid the current rates they are on without the extra credit because the extra credit is paid by the customer and that is too much for them to pay. So, yes, to answer the Honourable gentleman, people will be paid under my Administration.

Deputy Speaker: Albert Hines.

Albert Hines: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. In 2022A, the Right Honourable lady and her Party campaigned to abolish the over 66s limit. As Prime Minister, what will she do with the retirement age?

Deputy Speaker: Leader of the Opposition.

Leader of the Opposition: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question. As I said before, everything in this process will take a very long time, however, I will be abolishing the retirement age, as it is just another way of keeping people's money from them. Madam Deputy Speaker, there will be no set retirement age, people will be free to retire at any age they wish.

Deputy Speaker: Wayne Cortez.

Wayne Cortez: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. In 2022A, the Opposition campaigned to raise rental tax credits to D600. This credits renters with D600 extra in their pockets but with no taxes, how do the tax office know who they are crediting?

Deputy Speaker: Leader of the Opposition.

Leader of the Opposition: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question, it is a very good question. When we do get around to raising tax credits, and that will probably come sooner rather than later, renters will be able to make themselves known to the tax office by filling out a form with all their details and sending them in to the tax office, showing their eligibility to receive the tax credits. If renters do not fill out this form, they will not be eligible to receive these credits.

Deputy Speaker: Order! We now move to questions to the Leader of the Incompetent Democratic Party. Question number three, Toni Hodges.

Toni Hodges: Question number three, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Deputy Speaker: Stephen Spencer.

Stephen Spencer: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I met with colleagues this morning regarding the equal spread of regular Party campaigning, separate to the ongoing election. I will have further such meetings later today.

Deputy Speaker: Toni Hodges.

Toni Hodges: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Imcompetent Democratic Party campaigned in 2022A on taxing frequent walkers. Why?

Deputy Speaker: Stephen Spencer.

Stephen Spencer: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable lady for her question. When people are out for a walk, it's usually to keep fit. The Government are encouraging these people to get fit and to walk by taxing fizzy drinks and fatty snacks but, actually, the taxes from those snacks and drinks actually does go towards much-needed maintenance in our Parliamentary chambers and without that money, which is decreasing, maintenance is suffering, so if we can put a tougher tax on people who walk frequently, essentially, those avoiding the fizzy drinks and fatty snacks because they are dearer than they were before, we can ensure that maintenance money increases once again.

Deputy Speaker: Tasha Clark.

Tasha Clark: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Is this man for real? Who told him that fizzy drinks and fatty snacks taxes go towards Parliamentary maintenance? Madam Deputy Speaker, he is just making things up as he goes along. In 2022A so far he has campaigned to recruit no new teachers. This comes after our Common Schools Act 2021 which passed last year and comes into effect by September of this year. This Act will require teachers to be trained in the new schooling system the Government is employing, it will require there to be teachers who may have worked under such a system before. What good will having no new teachers bring about?

Deputy Speaker: Stephen Spencer.

Stephen Spencer: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is the norm in most countries of the world that there is a shortage of teachers and that the majority of the teachers they do have are female. In these countries, there is a shortage of teachers of other genders on top of the overall shortage of teachers. In Qaweritoyu, we have too many teachers, we have teachers a majority of male teachers, whilst other genders suffer in our schooling system, there is not an overall shortage of teachers and we do not need new teachers, so the incoming Government need to cap the new teachers being trained for a few years to come before things even out again and we can then slowly begin to train student teachers once again.

Deputy Speaker: Gina Riley.

Gina Riley: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is clear the Right Honourable is making up his own version of reality as he goes along. Madam Deputy Speaker, no wonder nobody can be bothered speaking to him-

Deputy Speaker: Err, no, order, order! Ms. Riley, the reason three people are being selected, and I emphasise, selected, to ask the Right Honourable gentleman a question is for the same reason as three people being selected to ask the Leader of the Opposition a question, it is because I capped it to three questions and for no other reason whatsoever.

Incompetent Democrats: Hear!

Deputy Speaker: The Honourable lady has one last chance to ask her question, I selected her. Gina Riley. 

Gina Riley: I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker, and to the Right Honourable gentleman, but it cannot be denied that he has invented his own version of reality and is making it up as he goes along. I am not sorry for that and will offer no apology for it. In 2022A so far, the Right Honourable gentleman and his Party have campaigned to outlaw cannabis. In fact, Madam Deputy Speaker, we are in a changing world, one that is realising the medicinal effects of cannabis. If this man were to become Prime Minister in October, what work would he do surrounding cannabis?

Deputy Speaker: Stephen Spencer.

Stephen Spencer: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. When I become Prime Minister in October, I will be striving to achieve all the policies set out on my Party manifesto. The manifesto states we're campaigning to outlaw cannabis, we will ensure cannabis remains illegal in the country.

Deputy Speaker: Order! Questions to the Action Party. Question number four, Gwendolyn Cortes.

Gwendolyn Cortes: Question number four, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Deputy Speaker: Monika Bolton.

Monika Bolton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I had meetings this morning with the new Leader of the Action Party regarding upcoming business in the new elected term to come. This afternoon, Madam Deputy Speaker, my Deputy Leader briefly replaces me as I have meetings with the social office regarding my retirement this October.

Deputy Speaker: Gwendolyn Cortes.

Gwendolyn Cortes: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Can we just take a moment to salute this now caretaker Party Leader? She was elected to us last October, immediately became the oldest elected MP, she then became her Party Leader and now she retires at the ripe old age of eighty-nine, handing over to a younger model. She hands over after having a very busy year and our Parliament ought to be very proud of our colleague.

Parliament: Hear, hear, hear!

Gwendolyn Cortes: Madam Deputy Speaker, down to business. The Action Party is the only Party so far this year not to present their business to Parliament and they will not have much time to present their business when their time comes around. They will be using their practical thinking in order to collaborate with each of us on working to get some of our issues passed for us, which is quite nice. How does the Right Honourable hope to do this and how does the Right Honourable lady hope her successor leads the Party on this front when she becomes Prime Minister in October.

Deputy Speaker: Monika Bolton.

Monika Bolton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable lady for her question. It's nice to be nice, isn't it? The Action Party policy of Pragmatism is about practical thinking and within this area, we look at our colleagues' Party manifestos, find out what we agree with and what we do not, then we decide which issues we're going to back and approach our colleagues about pushing through during our time. So, the issues we have agreed on, as a Party, are as follows, from the Modern Marxist Party, the public ownership of banks, pharmaceuticals and armoneuts, from the Tax Nobody Party, raising childminders' tax credits to D2,000, from the Incompetent Democrats, raising the cost of train fares, from the Advanced Humanitarian League, outlawing hunting and then, from our own manifesto, to focus on welfare spending. I am hoping at the moment that I will not have to do too much on these issues except liaise between the Party Leader and the Government, as I think each Party would be only delighted to have the chance, especially before October's election, to pass legislation on an extra area of their manifestos before a new Parliament gets in and reverses all previously debated and abandoned issues. My successor is a young lady, she's extremely competent, probably young enough to be my great-grandchild, not in her twenties yet, but that opens the door for her to have a nice, long, flourishing reign as Leader. I met with her this morning and I am currently teaching her the ropes and hoping she will approach Pragmatism the same way as me, I have no reason to believe she will not.

Deputy Speaker: Jan Hampton.

Jan Hampton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, I was never expecting to be called twice in the same session. One of the issues the Right Honourable lady will be dealing with this year is Meritocracy. Most Parties will not support this idea. How does the Right Honourable lady hope to approach this issue and how does she hope her successor will approach the issue?

Deputy Speaker: Monika Bolton.

Monika Bolton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable lady for her question. That will, of course, be a tricky issue to debate and implement because the current Government is, of course, still in charge until October. I will, of course, have to be gentle about how I propose the issue to the Government, however, in the rest of the Parliament, the only other Party willing to work with us on this issue is the Incompetent Democratic Party, so I will be liaising with the Right Honourable gentleman and his Party in my approach to the issue, which I am, of course, well aware, goes against the ethos of the last one hundred and seventy-two years of politics in this country. My successor will make a fine young Prime Minister and I wish her luck in abolishing elections and establishing a new system of Government without elections that pleases as many people as possible.

Deputy Speaker: Doris Greer.

Doris Greer: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Action Party is hoping to deal with multiracialism. Does the Right Honourable lady think there is still a racial issue in Qaz politics? If so, what does she hope to do about it and what does she hope her successor will do about it?

Deputy Speaker: Monika Bolton.

Monika Bolton: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I thank the Honourable lady for her question. The bottom line is that I do think there is still a racial issue in Qaz politics. I think we're in a much better position now than we have been but we did have the recent discovery of the nation's forgotten Prime Ministers who were erased from our history books because of their races, and also their genders, and work is still ongoing to correct that issue, and I applaud the Prime Minister and the Government for the work they are doing on that front. There is a reason, Madam Deputy Speaker, why these people are not running for Office, mostly, and it's because they still do not feel like they are treated equally in this country. What can we do to make them feel equal? We need to start giving them the same opportunities, not more opportunities, the same opportunities at running for elections, being elected to this chamber and being called on to debate, for no other reason than being bloody good at their job, that is what's wrong with this country.

Johnny Leonard: Point of Order!

Deputy Speaker: Point of Order, Johnny Leonard.

Johnny Leonard: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The current time allocated for the Action Party's business is September and October but we are on Winter Holidays at the end of the day today until the middle of September. The Action Party barely stands a fighting chance at debating their business, or even pushing through the rest of ours, which I find extremely unfair, especially as the exact date of October 2022 is still unknown. What can you, Madam Deputy Speaker, do about that to ensure the Action Party have the same opportunity the rest of us have had.

Deputy Speaker: I thank the Honourable gentleman for his question and his concern for his colleagues is to be admired but I must draw his attention to the fact that the Advanced Humanitarian League are in the same boat, they have July and August, we are finished today, we're not here in August. The year that's in it does not allow for much wiggle room so the Leaders of the two Parties hit hardest will just have to work quicker and the Speaker and my fellow Deputy Speakers and I will be as accommodating of them as possible. 

Order! We now approach the end of the session, I thank you all for your participation and wish those not joining us for the next session a happy and safe Winter. Order!