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Broad solutions to in-game inclusion
#21

It seems too complicated in someways. Having two houses voting would take too long and we may not get enough people.
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#22

Bicameral legislatures are bad idea; they tend to be highly dysfunctional. What I'm proposing is requiring a secondary approval vote for select matters passed by the Assembly, conducted by regional poll.
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#23

Your all assuming the RMB folks want to play. Until we get word from them, anything we do will fall on deaf ears.
#24

Lets get a poll going on game side before we go any further with this debate. We will have our answer shortly.
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-Legislator 7/3/16-4/10/18
-Secretary of State 4/3/20-2/24/21

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#25

Honestly I think the one thing that should have happened already is a regional poll or survey on the issue, since a major part of the debate involves whether they even want to get involved. Make a poll like:

Should the gameside region have greater political power?
*[Various yes options that cover the broad proposals like delegate voting, assembly voting, expanding the LC, etc]
*Keep the system the same
*Reduce involvement [Not something we want, but a valid opinion]
#26

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-Griffindor/Ebonhand
-Current Roles/Positions
-Legislator 2/24/20-
-High Court Justice 6/7/20-
-South Pacific Coral Guard 11/17/20-
-Minister of Engagement 6/17/22-


-Past Roles/Positions
-Legislator 7/3/16-4/10/18
-Secretary of State 4/3/20-2/24/21

-Chair of the APC 9/24/16-5/31/17
-Vice-Chair of the APC 6/1/17-4/10/18
-Local Council Member 7/1/17-11/17/17
-Citizen 5/2012-12/2014 and  2/26/16-7/3/2016
#27

(04-02-2016, 03:43 PM)Belschaft Wrote: They'd be able to vote in the first ballot, just not the second.

Your taking the rights of one group and giving it to the other. Nobody is going to join the SPSF if they can't vote in both.
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#28

(04-04-2016, 09:45 AM)Siberian Wrote:
(04-02-2016, 03:43 PM)Belschaft Wrote: They'd be able to vote in the first ballot, just not the second.

Your taking the rights of one group and giving it to the other. Nobody is going to join the SPSF if they can't vote in both.

I see no reason why a system couldn't be worked out where SPSF members could still vote.
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#29

(04-04-2016, 09:54 AM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-04-2016, 09:45 AM)Siberian Wrote:
(04-02-2016, 03:43 PM)Belschaft Wrote: They'd be able to vote in the first ballot, just not the second.

Your taking the rights of one group and giving it to the other. Nobody is going to join the SPSF if they can't vote in both.

I see no reason why a system couldn't be worked out where SPSF members could still vote.
The system could be called "Don't schedule SPSF missions during the period when we're conducting the ingame poll".

Further, no rights are being taken away; people who don't have a WA in TSP for whatever reason can still vote in the first round of balloting, which would continue to occur on the forums.
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#30

Ok, I'd say the poll is pretty decisive. I think we can all agree to some form of dual-ballot for the Delegacy as a starting point, but what form of legislative power should we transfer? What do people think about my proposal for a second, approval vote on select assembly legislation once it has been passed?
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