(05-06-2016, 09:51 PM)griffindor13 Wrote:

(05-05-2016, 07:39 PM)Ryccia Wrote: Lemme guess: Conservative Right-wing.

You guessed correctly....... kinda.....
I am liberal on social issues on gay marriage and marijuana and stuff like that, but im generally more conservative with the economic side of things. I mainly feel that social issues should be left to the states.

So you'd vote in a man who would destroy the national economy, increase the federal deficit by trillions of dollars, encourage nuclear proliferation among our East Asian allies, start a trade war with China that would damage us just as much as them, engage in restrictive and unconstitutional action against Muslim Americans, and destroy the right to free speech?

As bad as Hillary is...

(05-07-2016, 09:24 AM)Darkstrait Wrote:

(05-06-2016, 09:51 PM)griffindor13 Wrote:

(05-05-2016, 07:39 PM)Ryccia Wrote: Lemme guess: Conservative Right-wing.

You guessed correctly....... kinda.....
I am liberal on social issues on gay marriage and marijuana and stuff like that, but im generally more conservative with the economic side of things. I mainly feel that social issues should be left to the states.

So you'd vote in a man who would destroy the national economy, increase the federal deficit by trillions of dollars, encourage nuclear proliferation among our East Asian allies, start a trade war with China that would damage us just as much as them, engage in restrictive and unconstitutional action against Muslim Americans, and destroy the right to free speech?

As bad as Hillary is...

Frankly, I will just leave it to the will of all the people.
I am not going to be swayed by an argument, I have made my choice.

You are the people.

(05-07-2016, 09:24 AM)Darkstrait Wrote: So you'd vote in a man who would destroy the national economy, increase the federal deficit by trillions of dollars, encourage nuclear proliferation among our East Asian allies, start a trade war with China that would damage us just as much as them, engage in restrictive and unconstitutional action against Muslim Americans, and destroy the right to free speech?

As bad as Hillary is...

I don't get why Hillary is so bad though. She's a politician who is friends with the big players in politics that's how politics works, you make friends with the bigger people to succeed. She is just a less extreme version of Bernie, expect on gun control where she is left to him. Oh and she actually has a better plan on how to get rid of money in politics (independent review I might add) and that is Sanders main issue and he is getting beating. So I don't think Hillary is that bad.

Hillary is not better than Sanders on that.


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(1) Secretary Clinton has flip flopped on almost every issue. (2) Even if Bernie Sanders loses the bid for Democratic nomination, he still won, because he pulled Clinton away from the center-right.

"Hillary has a better plan to get money out of politics".

And Ted Cruz is actually the Zodiac Killer.

(05-07-2016, 08:15 PM)Qvait Wrote: (1) Secretary Clinton has flip flopped on almost every issue. (2) Even if Bernie Sanders loses the bid for Democratic nomination, he still won, because he pulled Clinton away from the center-right.

Not if she uses Trump as an excuse to head back to center...

(05-07-2016, 08:55 PM)Resentine Wrote: "Hillary has a better plan to get money out of politics".

And Ted Cruz is actually the Zodiac Killer.

Eh yes actually. Expects are saying that her plan to keep Wall Street accountable is stronger than Sanders and that's his core issue (his only issue). She wants to overturn Citizens United. Just because all Sanders talks about is wall street, money in politics and big banks doesn't mean he is the best guy for the job. Apart on that on issue Sanders can't talk about anything else ok. This election is about more than getting money out of politics, it's about foreign policy, healthcare, the economy, the environment, guns, race, terrorism, immigration, education. And when you hear Sanders talk about things like foreign policy he stumbles, unless he is talking about his main issue he is an old 74 year old man who you guys want as President. You really think he can stand up to Putin and all the other world leaders? Sanders is a nice protest vote but give him any position of power and he crumbles.

(05-07-2016, 08:15 PM)Qvait Wrote: (1) Secretary Clinton has flip flopped on almost every issue. (2) Even if Bernie Sanders loses the bid for Democratic nomination, he still won, because he pulled Clinton away from the center-right.

1. First of all you have to move on issues so you do the right thing, you can't be an ideological driven politician, and secondly Sanders has "flip flopped" on guns, immigration and race. 2. Yes he has move her closer to the left however she has been on the left and she has moved him closer to the left on the issues I have mentioned before.