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Did you do a shared history with Vercopa with Rhino?
I'm going to have to check with him about this, if he doesn't agree with it, then it's null.
"毎日の小さな努力の積み重ねが歴史を作っていくんだよ。"
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No, I didn't. However, if you check my NS page, I have a wonderful bit about Resentine's 100 year civil war with Corporatists, or as you know them: Fascists.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=feder.../id=384262 There are some missing numbers(like the "10 million dead" number, which I do plan to update once I flesh out stuff a bit more, but, this is the General summary of what happened.
An eye for an eye just makes the whole world go blind.
~Mahatma Gandhi
That's one great page.
I'm still asking Rhino about it though, it's his country.
"毎日の小さな努力の積み重ねが歴史を作っていくんだよ。"
Put a little effort everyday and it will stack up and create a foundation for you. - Doraemon
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And, well, to clarify a bit more on it, for the same reasons I made the statement on Farengeto, Resentine despises Vercopa, 'cept with a little bit more Human rights stuff in there somewhere. We don't like dictators or fascists, we see them as the same bad batch of eggs who make trouble for everyone else, and we believe that the only proper sentencing for those kinds of people will usually come in the form of an Artillery Shell.
An eye for an eye just makes the whole world go blind.
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(05-27-2016, 12:33 AM)Farengeto Wrote:(05-26-2016, 11:53 PM)Hammerstar Wrote: Hey kris, you're a student of international relations. Let me ask you this, how did Nazi Germany still maintain an embassy in the UK when they are full aware of the anti semitism as well as the human rights violations? How about Belgium at that time? Didn't they impose slavery in africa?
"毎日の小さな努力の積み重ねが歴史を作っていくんだよ。"
Put a little effort everyday and it will stack up and create a foundation for you. - Doraemon
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@Hammerstar: You basically need to understand that the world pre-1945 was much different from the world post-1945. There was little regard for "human rights" as the universal concept that we had today, and, for all their supposed power, the WWI Allies were not really in a position, nor were they interested in, fighting a war with Germany. That's why they let Hitler violated the Versailles Treaty time and time again, an attitude that led to the Munich Agreement and the "new" partition of Poland.
Another point to consider, connected to the lack of a strong regard for human rights, is that the norm was arguably what benefit states got (which still remains an important consideration, just, I'd say, not as blatantly). At a time where the Great Depression was ongoing, with a military not suited to fight a continental war, a population not eager to send their soldiers to die, and an increasingly militaristic Germany, would the UK have benefited from breaking diplomatic relations ahead of time? Remember, it's all about the historical context. And especially in that time, lofty notions like human rights didn't mean much. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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Just looking at strategies for diplomacy when ur the bad guy, that's all.
"毎日の小さな努力の積み重ねが歴史を作っていくんだよ。"
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You can start by not calling well-connected medium powers "headstrong" in official communications. Being the bad guy doesn't mean you have to be undiplomatic. ;)
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Ah, with Karnetvor
From the viewpoint of Vercopa. It is clear that they are unswayed, and that their logic falters when Vercopa asks why Zadiner is still accepted, that's what they mean by headstrong. I thought the tone in the last part would kinda tip the scales, when karnetvor asks for the evidence Vercopa retracts the offer and kinda overrules it. Vercopa's tone has been quite downright disrespectful as well, Rhino wanted me to show it like that. Cunning, dark, spiteful, and incredibly powerful
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