[Withdrawn] Constitutional Local Council Election Act proposal |
I propose the following amended LC Election Act, which includes WA, Native voting restrictions for on site LC elections, SPSF voting rights and constitutional designation language, to be adopted by both the onsite community and the Assembly. I've proposed it to the LC, but am presenting it here as well for discussion and input.
Quote:Local Council Elections ActAn act detailing elections for Local Council1. Timing of Elections Legislator | Local Councilor | Aspiring TSP Curmudgeon Messages archived by the Ministry Of the Regal Executive - Bureaucratic Services (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: the the candidate will be disqualified from the election. the the candidate will be disqualified from the election. (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: Conflict Of Interest Conflict Oof Interest (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: (1)Prior to the opening of the first voting period of the LC election, there will be a period of three days where members How about "citizens" instead of "members"? (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: (3) If there are three candidates or fewer, all candidates will be automatically elected and the elected Local Council shall fill any remaining spaces on the Local Council under the terms outlined in Article 5 of this Act. How about "If there are three candidates or fewer, all candidates will be automatically elected and the elected Local Council shall fill electees filling any remaining spaces of the Local Council under the terms outlined in Article 5 of this Act."? (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: a. If there are exactly twelve candidates a three day elimination poll, open to Native World Assembly members, with the with the top eleven vote-receiving candidates continuing onto the set of normal voting periods. How about "If there are exactly twelve candidates, then a three-day elimination poll, open to Native World Assembly members, with the with the will be conducted with the top eleven vote-receiving candidates continuing onto the set of normal voting periods."? (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: (5) In the event of a tie, all tied candidates will be elected unless this takes the number of Local Councilors to greater than three, in which case there will be a separate three day poll for the tied candidates. How about "In the event of a tie, all tied candidates will be elected unless this takes the number of Local Councilors to greater than three the number of Local Councilors is greater than three"? (08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: a. If the Local Council does not name a replacement within one week of the vacancy arising the Delegate may appoint a replacement or call a special election. How about "If the Local Council does not name a replacement within one week of the vacancy, arising the Delegate may appoint a replacement or call a special election."? Local Councillor (3/15/20 - 6/23/20)
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(08-13-2020, 12:04 PM)Rabbitz Wrote:(08-13-2020, 09:55 AM)Volaworand Wrote: (1)Prior to the opening of the first voting period of the LC election, there will be a period of three days where members I like all these and am tweaking the proposal... except for I intentionally went with "member" since it is a well defined legal term, where citizen seems less clear. To be clear, it would mean any person with a nation resident in the region can nominate candidates, regardless or influence, WA status or what not. Legislator | Local Councilor | Aspiring TSP Curmudgeon Messages archived by the Ministry Of the Regal Executive - Bureaucratic Services
In terms of procedure, what do you mean when you say this has been proposed in the LC? The LC doesn’t have the legal ability to propose constitutional laws to the Assembly. So if we were to move forward with this, any vote on the gameside must occur only after the Assembly has sent this over to them. Just want to make sure we aren’t flouting current procedure.
Generally speaking, I’m wary of returning this matter to Assembly jurisdiction. It would mean any time the gameside wants to change how they elect the LC, the Assembly has to originate an amendment and debate it here first. I know there’s some difficulty created by the High Court case questioning if the LC can regulate their elections at all. But the reason we repealed all the Assembly laws regarding LC elections was because we wanted the gameside to be able to decide those matters for itself.
(08-13-2020, 02:08 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: In terms of procedure, what do you mean when you say this has been proposed in the LC? The LC doesn’t have the legal ability to propose constitutional laws to the Assembly. So if we were to move forward with this, any vote on the gameside must occur only after the Assembly has sent this over to them. Just want to make sure we aren’t flouting current procedure. As I understand it the LC can propose changes to its own structure. I've encouraged the LC to debate this, pass it on site (for approval to submit it here), and present it as a change to it's own structure for Assembly approval. If the Assembly were to ammend it in our debates, then it would return to gameside for final approval. The reason it would need to recive conitutional designation is to resolve the issue we run into with the native, WA restrictions violating the Charter... and if it ever reaches the court, the term limits would disappear too, which would turn the LC from an entry level form of local government into one where it's just the same usual faces rotating around amounst themselves. Basicly... the LC " may not pass laws or regulations that contradict this Charter or constitutional laws." ... It can however, ask the Assembly to do so under the Ammendment process. "Local Council may originate amendments to its constitutional structure, which must be debated and voted upon in the Assembly." Asking the Assembly to adopt this act as consitutional would be the LC asking the Assembly to ammend it's constitutional structure. I've only created the thread here to gather input from the assembly on the front side. and hopefully arrive at a bill that is acceptable to both on site polling AND Assembly approval. and save the final draft having to go back for onsite approval a second time. Legislator | Local Councilor | Aspiring TSP Curmudgeon Messages archived by the Ministry Of the Regal Executive - Bureaucratic Services
This isn’t a Charter amendment about the LC’s structure. So it’s not eligible for LC origination.
In other words, a law about how the LC is elected doesn’t change its constitutional structure as outlined in the Charter. The LC isn’t allowed to propose laws to the Assembly. I do have a bill open to amend the Charter so that the LC can write its own local constitutional laws. That’s a more permanent solution that would avoid bringing this back under the Assembly’s jurisdiction.
What if we put an amendment in the elections act (which is a constitutional law) designating the LC law named "LCEA" to the same weight as constitutional law. This way the LC can make changes to their law as needed without Assembly origination everytime so long as the title of their act remains constant.
Perhaps something like added to the Elections act: 3: Office of the Delegate ... 4: Offices of the Local Council (1) The Local Council shall establish their own election system titled "The Local Council Elections Act" which shall have the full force of a Constitutional Law. (2) The provisions of the Local Council Elections Act must not violate the Charter, Constitutional Laws, other Assembly passed laws, or other rules or regulations of the region. [Various formatting for Section renumbering follows] -Griffindor/Ebonhand
-Current Roles/Positions -Legislator 2/24/20- -High Court Justice 6/7/20- -South Pacific Coral Guard 11/17/20- -Minister of Engagement 6/17/22- -Past Roles/Positions -Legislator 7/3/16-4/10/18 -Secretary of State 4/3/20-2/24/21 -Chair of the APC 9/24/16-5/31/17 -Vice-Chair of the APC 6/1/17-4/10/18 -Local Council Member 7/1/17-11/17/17 -Citizen 5/2012-12/2014 and 2/26/16-7/3/2016 A fine solution from Griffindor, but it may run into a potential problem:
'The High Court concludes that one law cannot designate another law (or sections thereof) as constitutional; constitutional laws must be directly marked as such within their own text.' (HCLQ 1805 Designation of Constitutional Laws, Part III; link)
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(08-13-2020, 11:29 PM)Nat Wrote:Ahh thanks for catching that error for me. -Griffindor/Ebonhand
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I'm constantly surprised at Nat's nearly encyclopaedic knowledge of past cases.
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