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[PASSED] Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act (Cooling-off Period) - Amerion - 01-27-2020 I am curious if there is support for an amendment to the Legislative Procedure Act which mandates that any new bill which is substantially similar to a previous bill which failed at vote be restricted from going to a vote for two to three weeks from the date of that vote's closure? Current draft: Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act Wrote: RE: [DISCUSSION] Cooling-off Period on Failed Legislation - Seraph - 01-27-2020 I think that's probably fair. RE: [DISCUSSION] Cooling-off Period on Failed Legislation - Roavin - 01-27-2020 I appreciate the intent but I have a few comments and worries:
RE: [DISCUSSION] Cooling-off Period on Failed Legislation - Amerion - 01-27-2020 (01-27-2020, 04:52 AM)Roavin Wrote: I appreciate the intent but I have a few comments and worries: Yes. I think so too. (01-27-2020, 04:52 AM)Roavin Wrote: I assume you are referring to Article 2(5)?: While I would agree that the Chair does have some discretion in this matter, it would be preferable to state unequivocally that — and this is by no means a reference to any current discussions but rather a hypothetical situation — Legislators will be unable to continually 'ram' through the same bill previously rejected in the hopes that one attempt will be successful. (01-27-2020, 04:52 AM)Roavin Wrote: Yes, and I imagine this would be at the discretion of the Chair as to what constitutes substantially different. I.e. A bill which retains some 90%+ of one that just failed should be disqualified from going to a vote. RE: [DISCUSSION] Cooling-off Period on Failed Legislation - Rebeltopia - 01-27-2020 Id support such an amendment. While it doesnt happen often, it has in the past, which usually leads to a vote almost immediately after the "new" debate time is up. RE: [DISCUSSION] Cooling-off Period on Failed Legislation - Amerion - 01-28-2020 Is this satisfactory? Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act Wrote: RE: [DRAFT] Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act (Cooling-off Period) - Tsunamy - 01-28-2020 Generally, I'm in favor if this and (in the distant past) raised a fuss when we've tried to hold votes/revotes/etc. That said, I'm concerned that three weeks is a rather long time. And, depending on the severity of the legislation, might be an impractical to detrimental. Ask we put in an overriding clause or some sort? I mean, since this is all up to the judgement of the Chair anyway, something like "this may be overridden during extenuating circumstances" shouldn't be that much of a difference. RE: [DRAFT] Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act (Cooling-off Period) - Amerion - 01-29-2020 (01-28-2020, 12:28 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Generally, I'm in favor if this and (in the distant past) raised a fuss when we've tried to hold votes/revotes/etc. I’ve admittedly erred on a longer time frame. Is two weeks more suitable? In any case, as you’ve noted, the Chair should be able to override the clause should the occasion necessitate such an intervention. I have amended the text of the bill to reflect these changes. The language used to describe the process of waiving the restriction has been replicated from the Motion to Waive the mandatory debate period. However, I am also open to changing this if it is deemed not appropriate for this particular instance. Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act Wrote: RE: [DRAFT] Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act (Cooling-off Period) - Seraph - 01-29-2020 I think that's satisfactory. RE: [DRAFT] Amendment to Article 1 of the Legislative Procedure Act (Cooling-off Period) - Amerion - 01-29-2020 (01-29-2020, 04:27 AM)Seraph Wrote: I think that's satisfactory. All good then. I'll amend the OP to include the latest changes. |