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RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - Unibot - 06-19-2014
I think forum communities, including TSP, do a poor job at giving people opportunities to participate. We *could* actually let them participate in elections and give them opportunities to contribute to discussions. The attitude of "let them come to us", majorly drives down participation and not for the better. It's a conservative attitude and it may make people feel smug and self-important, but it doesn't help the region grow.
RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - Tsunamy - 06-19-2014
How?
Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - sandaoguo - 06-19-2014
TSP has no trouble with regional growth. We lack growth in the forum community. Incentivizing people to stay off the forums isn't going to lead to some great utopia. It's not "smug and self-important" to recognize that.
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RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - Ditortilla - 06-21-2014
(06-19-2014, 03:06 PM)Belschaft Wrote: It's not two communities, but rather a sub-set of of one.
A sub set which has awarded itself the prerogative of telling the majority of the community how it will conduct itself
That my dear Ryccia is my issue with The Coalition
Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - sandaoguo - 06-21-2014
Welcome to the game!
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RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - Belschaft - 06-21-2014
A subset who actually cares enough to involve itself in the mechanics of regional governance. We have literally the lowest barriers to entry of any GCR region, so your criticism on that front falls apart.
RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - God-Emperor - 06-21-2014
I dunno that we have the lowest, but it's certainly low enough to not become an issue, if you don't turn it into one.
RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - Unibot - 06-21-2014
(06-21-2014, 05:36 PM)Belschaft Wrote: A subset who actually cares enough to involve itself in the mechanics of regional governance. We have literally the lowest barriers to entry of any GCR region, so your criticism on that front falls apart.
We see growth in the forum community, but it's not growth among the region, but a lot of it is other feederites joining TSP.
I agree that TSP has the most open barriers and relative to other GCRs is doing well to encourage members to join our forums - but that's only relative to other GCRs. In all actuality, all of the GCRs do a piss poor job and probably deliberately: it scares citizens to think that they could broaden governance to include more voices from within the region.
RE: Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - Kris Kringle - 06-21-2014
(06-21-2014, 07:59 PM)Unibot Wrote: In all actuality, all of the GCRs do a piss poor job and probably deliberately: it scares citizens to think that they could broaden governance to include more voices from within the region.
Please don't include the South Pacific in that group. We do not try to scare people away. We thrive when newcomers get involved in the governance of the region, not the other way around.
Amendment to Citizenship Removals 1.2.7 of the Charter - sandaoguo - 06-21-2014
I don't see how GCRs are "worse" than any other regions. What exactly are we doing poorly? According to this thread, it's that we follow the standard citizenship model of NS. We don't require anything more than any other region with an offsite government. We likely require less!
So I don't buy for a second that we are doing a "piss poor job" or that we are afraid of more people coming into government. That's baseless BS. No other region does what's being asked of in this thread.
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