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Sit in Lazarus - Tsunamy - 04-07-2015 From what I can gather, something has been going down in Laz where Stu (the delegate) is attempting to consolidate power and eject nations. Apparently, he has even ejected Funk (from what I can tell). Cormac told me that TNP and Taijitu are apparently closing embassies in protest. But, from what I can gather, none of this is illegal, so I think we stand by Stu. So ... at the moment, I'm not sure we have much to report. Or much we should do. I just wanted to keep everyone abreast of the situation, in case it gets worse. Or in case we need to issue a statement regarding our relationship with them. RE: Sit in Lazarus - Tsunamy - 04-07-2015 Got passed the following from The Church of Satan. First: Quote:Greetings, Then, when I asked for more info: Quote:It started when Stu illegally changed the flag of Lazarus. We have a law to determine our flag and he did not amend it to change the flag. Funkadelia spoke out about this. Stu however did not like this and responded by banning Funkadelia without due process of law, as required by our constitution. He then followed up by disbanding the judiciary of Lazarus so Funk could not appeal the decision. Later, The People's Congress called for a Vote of Confidence. If the vote had proceeded Stu would have been recalled as delegate. Stu deleted the threads for all attempts to recall him so he could stay in power. Not more than an hour or so ago, he illegally dissolved the constitution of Lazarus. He has now made it clear his intention to draft a new constitution without the involvement of the citizens of Lazarus. Since Stu doesn't know how to use the Admin CP, Feux has been working the controls on his behalf. The following illustrates exactly how he violated Lazarene law, thus becoming a rogue delegate. I've also reached out to Stu, but haven't heard back from him yet. I, personally, don't see a difference between Stu being allowed to change the charter and can it whole sale. But ... idk how we all feel about it. More, what I'm concerned about, is how allies hold up through these. RE: Sit in Lazarus - Feirmont - 04-07-2015 All I know about our allies is only Spiritus and The North Pacific (edit: and Taijitu) have closed their Embassies both gameside and forumside. I personally don't feel we should go to the extreme of closing the embassy. After all, I refer you to the Lazarus-TSP treaty: Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation between The South Pacific and Lazarus Wrote:Article VI. Exchange of Embassies. I believe we should wait to hear from Stu; if Stu has indeed gone rogue, then perhaps Alexej. If both are rogue, I'm sure we can ask for more than just one of their governors about what's going on. It's a situation that needs to be watched closely for sure. But we shouldn't take drastic measures yet. In my opinion. I'm still relatively new to gameside affairs to be honest. RE: Sit in Lazarus - Tsunamy - 04-08-2015 How's this for a statement regarding Laz? Quote:The South Pacific is greatly saddened by the recent events in our friend and ally, Lazarus. While we recognize that this is an internal matter for the citizens of Lazarus, we sincerely hope for a speedy and amicable resolution to the situation. I'm really torn on a course of action. I think it's a grey area, but popular sentiment seems against Stu. Wolf suggested supporting the Government in Exile. I'll be interested to see what others think. Sopo was reaching out to TNP and Spritius to see why they decided to withdraw embassies. RE: Sit in Lazarus - Tsunamy - 04-08-2015 Ok, well both Wolf and GR has suggested we acknowledge the Government in Exile. I'm assuming this would include requesting a "memorandum of understanding" of the government in exile and withdrawing our Embassy in protest. Thoughts? RE: Sit in Lazarus - Feirmont - 04-08-2015 If they both agree on it, then I'm all for it. RE: Sit in Lazarus - Tsunamy - 04-08-2015 Ok. Gimme a couple and I'll draft a statement. And we'll take a vote. RE: Sit in Lazarus - Tsunamy - 04-08-2015 Potential Statement: Quote:The South Pacific is greatly saddened by the recent events in our friend and ally, Lazarus, and we sincerely hope for a speedy and amicable resolution. Thoughts? Can we vote on the release of this and the removal of our embassy? Tsu: Aye Pen: Aye Aram:Aye Feir: Aye Henn: RE: Sit in Lazarus - Feirmont - 04-08-2015 Aye RE: Sit in Lazarus - Aramanchovia - 04-08-2015 Once again in second last line (typo). Also that is dispute should provably be that this dispute. As mentioned elsewhere, I try to stay out of other regions politics, but if this is the recommended position from those in the know, I will tentatively support it. |