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[PASSED] A1907.03: Criminal Code Amendment (Electoral Fraud) - Farengeto - 07-20-2019
Quote:(8) Electoral Fraud shall be defined as a manipulation of the democratic process in The South Pacific, wherein an organised body of abettors conspire to obtain legislator status with the intent to vote for private or personal advantage.
To my knowledge a lot of the Electoral Fraud law was written prior to gameside voting become a thing, and hasn't been substantially changed since. As a result it leaves a potential oversight.
While it resists attempts against organized influencibg of forumside elections, there is no similar protection for gameside voting.
The basic obvious case of where such things would be relevant is fairly simple. Right now, if a group sends in a group of nations to brigade an election and sway the result, that is perfectly legal. Such organized efforts should obviously not be legal. If such an effort can be proven to exist in court, it should be a crime as its forumside equivalent already is.
Thoughts?
[DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - sandaoguo - 07-20-2019
This crime was written at a time when we didn't vote gameside in the election. Given that "native" status in polls includes brand new nations that apply for WA status, I think we definitely need to update this.
Quote:(8) Electoral fraud shall be defined as the manipulation of the democratic process in the South Pacific, wherein--
(a) an individual recruits people to vote a particular way, with an underlying corrupt purpose, regardless if the recruited persons are aware of that purpose;
(b) a group of individuals organize themselves to vote a particular way, with an underlying corrupt purpose that would alter the natural outcome of the vote.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - Belschaft - 07-21-2019
That new wording would expand the definition to cover the in-game region, but it narrows it so that it wouldn’t cover Assembly votes - only elections.
[DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - sandaoguo - 07-21-2019
Updated the language to cover all votes.
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RE: [DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - Farengeto - 07-21-2019
The wording on the gameside one feels a bit limited in assigning fault. If a group knowingly organizes such an effort, it's worded as though its leader behind it is at fault.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - Amerion - 07-24-2019
Is there any further discussion for this amendment?
RE: [DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - sandaoguo - 07-24-2019
(07-21-2019, 12:43 PM)Farengeto Wrote: The wording on the gameside one feels a bit limited in assigning fault. If a group knowingly organizes such an effort, it's worded as though its leader behind it is at fault.
If everyone else is aware of the scheme, that would fall under the second part of the definition.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - Farengeto - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 11:48 AM)sandaoguo Wrote:(07-21-2019, 12:43 PM)Farengeto Wrote: The wording on the gameside one feels a bit limited in assigning fault. If a group knowingly organizes such an effort, it's worded as though its leader behind it is at fault.
If everyone else is aware of the scheme, that would fall under the second part of the definition.
Think I read it wrong originally. This has my support.
Motion to vote?
[DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - ProfessorHenn - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 02:46 PM)Farengeto Wrote:(07-24-2019, 11:48 AM)sandaoguo Wrote:(07-21-2019, 12:43 PM)Farengeto Wrote: The wording on the gameside one feels a bit limited in assigning fault. If a group knowingly organizes such an effort, it's worded as though its leader behind it is at fault.
If everyone else is aware of the scheme, that would fall under the second part of the definition.
Think I read it wrong originally. This has my support.
Motion to vote?
Second.
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RE: [DISCUSSION] Electoral Fraud and Gameside - The Sakhalinsk Empire - 07-24-2019
I support this, and third it.