Possibly not the greatest phrasing by either of us there, but now is really a good time to join, because they'd have a massive say in the future of the region, than if they waited a while. Anyway, I don't think there will be anything super sudden about any changes.

Anyway, I think it might be a bit hard to make any real judgments, or conclusions, on the current activity levels of the region, we've just gone through a period where a lot of people would be having finals/exams, Christmas and New Years celebrations. That is a time where people will be concentrating on RL, not NS, and only in the coming days will we actually get a real idea of activity, once people return from their holidays. Already, we have seen 3 citizenship applications, within the past couple of days. That is going to increase, as more and more people return.

I'm not saying we don't need change; we do. But I am saying that it's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be. You can talk about how golden the past is, but it's always going to be just that, the past. Sitting here dwelling on that doesn't help anyone. Invariably there's a reason why the past is the past, and usually that is because we've moved on. Times have changed, and so have we. We need to keep changing, to keep up with the times, but that doesn't mean we have to kill everything the region stands for because a few people took holidays.

If you really want to help, how about going and joining the MoRA? As I see it, there is only a dedicated staff numbering only a few, and many sitting here. It's a bit hard to get a whole heap done, when the region as a whole is apathetic towards the ministry. Helping out there would do a little more than sitting around here arguing over which part of the charter should be destroyed first. Just an offer to spend 5 minutes a day doing some for the MoRA would accomplish a lot more than that.

I understand that isn't everyone's cup of tea, but is wholesale change really that necessary?