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CSS Recall of Sam111

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03-07-2016, 05:24 PM

(03-07-2016, 05:11 PM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(03-07-2016, 03:14 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: For what it's worth, I support the motion and I do believe we should keep voting until Sam either resigns or is recalled. Failed votes in the Assembly won't change the underlying factor that the CSS is dysfunctional while a couper remains a member. If it takes vote after vote for that point to be made, then so be it. It's ridiculous that the CSS can't remove its own members anyways.

I hesitate to bring this up, but someone else is bound to. If our argument for recalling Sam is that he ignored the law and booted someone, aren't we equally ignoring the law if we keep voting to remove Sam?

And to @fmastr -- yes, technically I'm head or root admin even though Glen does most of the technical heavy lifting,

That is ridiculous, Tsu. Sam coup'd the region. Henn has motioned a vote. I can't believe you'd even try that argument.

Let's talk about the last vote. 14 people voted to recall Sam. 10 people voted to keep him on. 4 abstained. (Why it's acceptable for any Cabinet member to abstain on this issue is beyond me.)

Let's not kid ourselves on who most of those 10 voters are. We all know how to characterize the bulk of them.

I'm done with this respectability bullshit. Sam needs to resign. You coup'd the region. I don't care if you think you can do more in TSP if you get to keep your special positions. It's selfish that you didn't resign in the first place. It shows your complete disrespect for TSP, that you think it's a-ok to upend the entire region, avoid taking any kind of responsibility for months, and then come back and say, "Oh, I just feel I'll have more to do if I don't have to face any consequences for my actions."

We're pretty much beyond hope if our leaders don't call out this BS. Some of you would prefer to do anything at all to avoid a fight, because you think the metric for success is not having to do anything difficult or controversial. This is a prime example of the total failure of our region's "reasonable" class.

You reap what you sow, and we've been planting dysfunction and irrationality for a very long time, disguising it as consensus or moderation or just trying to get along.

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Messages In This Thread

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-01-2016, 07:22 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Cormac - 03-01-2016, 07:29 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-01-2016, 09:06 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-01-2016, 09:11 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Cormac - 03-01-2016, 09:52 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-02-2016, 03:47 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Cormac - 03-02-2016, 09:59 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-02-2016, 06:08 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-02-2016, 08:55 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-02-2016, 11:19 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-02-2016, 11:40 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Awe - 03-02-2016, 11:40 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-02-2016, 11:41 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-02-2016, 11:51 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-02-2016, 11:55 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-02-2016, 11:54 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Cormac - 03-02-2016, 11:57 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-02-2016, 11:59 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-02-2016, 01:05 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-02-2016, 01:09 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-02-2016, 01:15 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-02-2016, 01:19 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-02-2016, 01:21 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-02-2016, 01:43 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Eluvatar - 03-02-2016, 02:02 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-02-2016, 02:20 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by HEM - 03-02-2016, 06:07 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Lord Ravenclaw - 03-02-2016, 09:29 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-02-2016, 09:55 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 01:37 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-04-2016, 01:40 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 01:45 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-04-2016, 01:47 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-04-2016, 01:50 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 01:52 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Resentine - 03-04-2016, 01:55 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 01:59 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Resentine - 03-04-2016, 02:03 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-04-2016, 02:05 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 02:18 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-04-2016, 02:51 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Zak6858 - 03-04-2016, 03:39 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Punchwood - 03-04-2016, 01:12 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 03:51 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-04-2016, 10:12 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-04-2016, 10:15 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-04-2016, 10:15 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-04-2016, 10:20 AM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-04-2016, 10:22 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 11:52 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by HEM - 03-04-2016, 01:20 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Farengeto - 03-04-2016, 01:35 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-04-2016, 07:09 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-04-2016, 01:59 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Drugged Monkeys - 03-04-2016, 02:00 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-04-2016, 02:10 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-04-2016, 02:17 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-04-2016, 02:25 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-04-2016, 02:38 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-04-2016, 02:39 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-04-2016, 04:16 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-04-2016, 04:31 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-04-2016, 07:53 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-04-2016, 09:35 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-04-2016, 09:53 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-05-2016, 02:55 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-04-2016, 10:11 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-05-2016, 05:22 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Zak6858 - 03-05-2016, 06:15 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-05-2016, 06:17 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-05-2016, 06:26 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by rhinotaz - 03-05-2016, 06:40 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Zak6858 - 03-05-2016, 06:42 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-05-2016, 06:46 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-05-2016, 07:04 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-05-2016, 07:08 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-05-2016, 07:11 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Malashaan - 03-06-2016, 07:13 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-06-2016, 08:16 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-06-2016, 09:15 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-06-2016, 09:22 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-06-2016, 09:27 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Cormac - 03-07-2016, 04:19 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 12:09 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Imperial Frost Federation - 03-06-2016, 09:35 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-06-2016, 09:50 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Imperial Frost Federation - 03-06-2016, 11:13 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-06-2016, 11:43 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-06-2016, 11:48 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Awe - 03-07-2016, 12:26 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Sam111 - 03-07-2016, 08:51 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-07-2016, 10:07 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 10:31 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Siberian - 03-07-2016, 10:19 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Sam111 - 03-07-2016, 10:19 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Drugged Monkeys - 03-07-2016, 10:27 AM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-07-2016, 12:07 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 12:11 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 12:43 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 12:47 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 12:53 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 01:42 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 02:21 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-07-2016, 12:28 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-07-2016, 12:32 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-07-2016, 12:42 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 12:49 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-07-2016, 12:54 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 02:16 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-07-2016, 02:22 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-07-2016, 02:32 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 02:47 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by fmastr - 03-07-2016, 03:04 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-07-2016, 02:41 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 02:56 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2016, 03:14 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 05:11 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 03:36 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-07-2016, 04:09 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 04:15 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Belschaft - 03-07-2016, 04:18 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 05:48 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-07-2016, 04:28 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Zak6858 - 03-07-2016, 04:47 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-07-2016, 05:00 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2016, 05:07 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Resentine - 03-07-2016, 05:09 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2016, 05:24 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 05:41 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-07-2016, 05:26 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-07-2016, 05:43 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Wolf - 03-07-2016, 05:47 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by rhinotaz - 03-07-2016, 05:53 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 06:04 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 06:14 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2016, 06:46 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 07:11 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 07:16 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Punchwood - 03-07-2016, 07:17 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 07:20 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Punchwood - 03-07-2016, 07:31 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Kris Kringle - 03-07-2016, 07:20 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2016, 07:21 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 07:23 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2016, 07:32 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by The Serres Republic - 03-07-2016, 07:34 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Awe - 03-07-2016, 11:18 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Cormac - 03-11-2016, 07:35 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-12-2016, 05:29 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by ProfessorHenn - 03-12-2016, 05:37 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by HEM - 03-16-2016, 06:02 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Punchwood - 03-27-2016, 04:21 PM

CSS Recall of Sam111 - by sandaoguo - 03-28-2016, 03:59 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Tsunamy - 03-28-2016, 04:04 PM

RE: CSS Recall of Sam111 - by Awe - 04-02-2016, 12:40 PM

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