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Declassified: Belschaft & NK
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(03-06-2017, 11:25 AM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:29 AM)Farengeto Wrote: I would like to mention my previously suggested less drastic approach again.

Still using an EO we essentially declare that the legislator elligibility clause  applies at all times, particularly the security risk part which gives us a security threat option to revoke legislator status (and at this point with Bel did we even want more). It also addresses what is clearly a pressing ambiguity in the law and therefore irrefutably meets the requirements for an EO, and because it merely uses a reasonable definition of eligibility it's not targetted towards Bel in its design.

My main problem with this is that pulling legislator status doesn't do much but make us look like gestapos who want Bel as a second-class citizen.

The idea of revoking legislator or citizenship status has always been a terrible tool — even when we used it against Bel previously.

The problem is that our options are limited to doing nothing, revoking his legislator status or outright banning him. The former makes this whole process look weak and the latter is what would actually make us look like "gestapos". And I'm not speaking legally here, what other options do we even have?

Here is a draft of my alternative proposal:

Quote:Security Actions Executive Order

Realizing that the Cabinet and Committee for Regional Security are not empowered to take action where there is a Legislator who has concealed their identity or presents a legitimate and relevant security threat, the following is ordered:

Legislator Eligibility

3. All residents of the Coalition are eligible to attain legislator status through application with the Chair, predicated on the Chair ensuring they are not seeking membership in bad faith, are not attempting to obscure their identity, are not attempting to join with multiple nations, and the Council on Regional Security does not declare them a significant risk to regional security. Any member of the Assembly may publicly petition the Chair for or against a prospective legislator’s admission. Should a person with legislator status be found at any time to not meet these requirements, the Chair will remove their legislator status.

4. Continued legislator status requires active membership and good behavior. The Chair will remove legislator status from any person absent for three non-concurrent Assembly votes; legislators who have an approved leave of absence from the Chair shall not be considered absent. Additionally, the Chair may suspend privileges for disruptive members. Frequent suspensions may be grounds for ineligibility, if found appropriate in a fair trial by the High Court.

Simple, morally and legally unambiguous (if it's not someone please fix my wording), and ensures us the power to act in the case of several other circumstances including false identities, joining with malicious intent, multying and security threats whenever they occur and are found.


Messages In This Thread
Declassified: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-20-2017, 04:35 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-20-2017, 04:36 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-21-2017, 05:09 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-21-2017, 06:19 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-21-2017, 07:16 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 02-22-2017, 01:51 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-22-2017, 06:38 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-22-2017, 09:56 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-22-2017, 10:05 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-23-2017, 10:24 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-23-2017, 11:15 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-23-2017, 11:29 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-23-2017, 11:49 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by USoVietnam - 02-23-2017, 12:02 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-23-2017, 01:44 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-23-2017, 01:33 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-23-2017, 01:56 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-23-2017, 02:38 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-23-2017, 05:34 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-23-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-23-2017, 07:46 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 02-23-2017, 07:26 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-23-2017, 08:00 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-23-2017, 08:02 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 02-23-2017, 08:26 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-23-2017, 10:54 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 02-24-2017, 06:29 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-24-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-24-2017, 10:27 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-24-2017, 11:10 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 02-24-2017, 11:12 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-24-2017, 12:11 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-24-2017, 09:43 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 02-24-2017, 10:53 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 02-25-2017, 01:03 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-25-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 02-25-2017, 12:18 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-25-2017, 01:22 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-25-2017, 01:47 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 02-26-2017, 07:48 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-26-2017, 08:44 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-27-2017, 03:47 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 02-28-2017, 12:30 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 02-28-2017, 02:50 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 02-28-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Drugged Monkeys - 02-28-2017, 05:40 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 02-28-2017, 09:14 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 02-28-2017, 09:19 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by USoVietnam - 03-01-2017, 12:33 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-01-2017, 08:36 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-01-2017, 08:44 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-02-2017, 12:01 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-02-2017, 11:37 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-02-2017, 08:33 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-02-2017, 12:08 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-02-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-02-2017, 12:32 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-02-2017, 12:42 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-02-2017, 12:47 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-02-2017, 12:49 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-02-2017, 10:43 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-02-2017, 12:49 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-02-2017, 11:35 PM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-03-2017, 10:21 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-03-2017, 11:36 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-03-2017, 08:17 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-03-2017, 08:51 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-03-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-04-2017, 11:12 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 03-04-2017, 05:10 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 03-04-2017, 09:52 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-04-2017, 10:34 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-04-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-04-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 03-04-2017, 02:04 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-04-2017, 02:09 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-04-2017, 08:35 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-05-2017, 10:35 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-05-2017, 10:37 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-05-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-05-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-06-2017, 10:04 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-06-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-06-2017, 10:16 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-06-2017, 10:29 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-06-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-06-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 03-06-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-06-2017, 10:35 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 03-06-2017, 10:42 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-06-2017, 10:47 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 03-06-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-07-2017, 12:54 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Kris Kringle - 03-06-2017, 11:17 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-07-2017, 01:28 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 03-07-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 03-08-2017, 03:44 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-08-2017, 05:40 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Drugged Monkeys - 03-08-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by USoVietnam - 03-09-2017, 01:02 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 03-09-2017, 03:51 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-09-2017, 08:44 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 03-09-2017, 09:23 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-09-2017, 09:38 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-09-2017, 10:55 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Farengeto - 03-09-2017, 11:24 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 03-09-2017, 07:18 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-16-2017, 11:20 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 03-16-2017, 12:20 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Drugged Monkeys - 03-16-2017, 04:53 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-16-2017, 08:36 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 03-16-2017, 06:07 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-17-2017, 08:15 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-17-2017, 09:38 AM
Belschaft & NK - by sandaoguo - 03-17-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 03-17-2017, 10:19 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Sam111 - 04-26-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Seraph - 04-26-2017, 01:40 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Tsunamy - 04-26-2017, 06:19 PM
RE: Belschaft & NK - by Escade - 04-26-2017, 06:58 PM



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