(03-12-2018, 05:49 AM)sandaoguo Wrote: Roavin, come on. Stop this downplaying. You know full well that aligning with the NPO will mark a shift in NSGP alliances. The relationships between NPO and other SovAcc members is poor and allying with us will have real consequences there. Much more will change for the NPO than for us, but they’re already fairly isolated anyways.

You're fully right, it will likely mark a shift - but not for us! We are set in our niche and this isn't going to drag us out of it. It's likely to drag the NPO, who are ostensibly not happy with their SovAcc partners, away from them, and given that the SovAcc peeps are (with the exception of the NPO) all basically our enemies, I see this as a good thing (as do you).

(03-12-2018, 05:49 AM)sandaoguo Wrote: Again, I’m left confused as to why the Cabinet isn’t owning up to what it intends. I tried to tell this to the region in my campaign, being aware of what was in the works in FA but unable to reveal it without breaking confidentiality. TSPers should be aware of what they’re getting into, and the Cabinet shouldn’t try to make it seem like something else.

There’s a purpose behind this alliance, and it’s not “we’ve done festivals together!” NPO was viewed as a threat not too long ago. No Cabinet is going to hitch our wagon to the NPO, given their entire history, without having a good reason. Just be open about the reason! TSP is at the center of the modern NSGP conflict, with Osiris/Balder/TWP leading the charge, and we need to form a bloc of our own to counteract.

That’s far more compelling than sweeping all the negatives of the NPO under the rug just because we’ve done some Discord events together.

More than just Discord events, but I digress - I don't see why it can't be all of the above.

We've done culture collab, military collab, intelligence collab, and we get along very well. This is a good reason for an alliance.

In a FA-discussion with Escade about a year ago, when I first mentioned NPO to her, I said "If instead we make a nice and clean [...] bilateral with NPO, we get better security with less baggage and problems". That's a bit more candid than I'd say that in other settings, but you get the gist. This is also a good reason for an alliance.

And finally, the other SovAcc signatories left are TWP (who hate us) and Balder (who really hate us). Doing something to help bring NPO closer to us interregionally, as Atlantica stated, is also a good reason for an alliance (I'm agreeing with you here), no matter if it's explicitly intended (as you would have) or if it's just a pleasant side-effect (as in Tim's case).