(07-25-2018, 07:46 AM)Belschaft Wrote: I’ve said my piece on this. Language is subjective and the nature of a coup in NSGP is as well; substituting the opinion of the EC for that of the voters is a dangerous step, and this law will be disastrous and lead to weeks if not months of fighting the first time it is applied or not applied.

That said, the assembly has made it’s decision. I look forward to cleaning up after it’s mess.

 

(07-25-2018, 10:07 AM)Tsunamy Wrote: So, I realize I'm horribly late to this, so forgive me if someone already answered this.

But, how is this enforceable? Or, more specifically, who can enforce this?

At the very least, the law, as voted on, doesn't express who makes that determination. Like Bel has noted several times now, the idea of a coup is somewhat subjective and what I may determine to be a coup isn't may not be what Glen would call a coup and neither may be what Bel would call a coup.

I don't actually disagree with the premise of this law; but I do think it's missing something (especially given our lack of a codified Conflict of Interest).

That's the problem, there is no clearly delineated definition that isn't tinged with some amount of political bias.

And correction, having been in the cabinet since Funk's coup of Lazarus - guess what we would have recognized that coup over my dead body. Everything I ever posted or did was against that recognition and I guess it was successful.

That said my reaction towards coups and our FA relations is intrinsically tied to believing that our word, faith, and trust is the best thing we have and that if we are allies we keep our word.  That's the TSP way - we have a treaty we don't eff that treaty or our allies over whether a GCR or a UCR.

The only thing enforceable is if we make a vote and add to the list of PNG players (post the GC I'm not sure what this is called now). Or some mechanism that allows for that. At this point since the GC, I mean is even Milograd on a list? Is there a list? Who is on it, where is it maintained?

I also see the proposer of the law not responding - really upstanding work as prime minister for the region so far. /sarcasm

Farengeto continues to be the kind of incompetent and uncommunicative legislator and now PM that this region wanted (not withstanding my "if this is what you want then here you are on a platter" vote) considering his message in the TSP Discord about how the previous cabinet proscribed Souls that attempted to absolve him of any decision making. That the PM of the region lacks the ability to stand by with conviction what he put in order (if he didn't believe in it he could have turned it down or gone another direction) along with this nebulous law that seems to be aimed at whoever specific people want to "keep out" or not is disgraceful to say the least.