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[PASSED] Delegates and Coups
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(07-26-2018, 05:49 PM)sandaoguo Wrote:
(07-26-2018, 01:02 PM)Belschaft Wrote:
(07-26-2018, 09:54 AM)Tsunamy Wrote: Instead, can I suggest we add a line *somewhere* saying that EC can make that determination and, if there is a question, it goes to the CRS, who makes the final call?

That would probably make this law enforceable, but I don't think it's a good idea; do we really want to be politicising the EC and CRS?   

It's not a political judgement call. It doesn't take politics to answer the question, "Was the rule of law followed?"
(07-26-2018, 01:02 PM)Belschaft Wrote: How about we just trust voters not to be idiots, and if someone who we think might coup runs raise the issue in their campaign? 

By this logic, we should get rid of all checks and balances, and nobody should complain about conflicts of interests or separation of powers... because, after all, we should just trust voters not to be idiots.

Anyways, this amendment is slated to pass. Based on Tsu's idea, I offer this additional amendment:
Charter, Article VII, Section 1 Wrote:1. The Delegate will be the head of state of the Coalition. They will be responsible for helping maintain the security of the region, promoting growth and activity, and serving as an advisor to the forum-side government. Barring reasonable circumstances, the Delegate will hold the in-game Delegate seat. No person may be Delegate if they have participated, in whole or in part and at any time, in any coup d'etat of the Coalition or any of its allies, excluding normal raiding, defending, or liberation efforts as part of an organized military. The Election Commission will not add to the ballot any candidate that does not meet this qualification, which my be appealed to the Council on Regional Security.

Or, to keep things a bit more organized-looking:
Charter, Article VII, Section 1 Wrote:1. The Delegate will be the head of state of the Coalition. They will be responsible for helping maintain the security of the region, promoting growth and activity, and serving as an advisor to the forum-side government. Barring reasonable circumstances, the Delegate will hold the in-game Delegate seat.

2. No person may be Delegate if they have participated, in whole or in part and at any time, in any coup d'etat of the Coalition or any of its allies, excluding normal raiding, defending, or liberation efforts as part of an organized military. The Election Commission will not add to the ballot any candidate that does not meet this qualification, which my be appealed to the Council on Regional Security.

I may be missing something here, but I believe that a trustworthy nation that has supported TSP in all their lives - but has stages a coup somewhere - should be able to run for the Delegacy. I understand that they may change allegiance any time, which is why I would propose to add an article stating that the CRS may approve or disapprove of a nation running for the Delegacy. The exact wording I do not know, but that is what I want to see.
The Sakhalinsk Empire, Legislator of the South Pacific
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Messages In This Thread
[PASSED] Delegates and Coups - by Farengeto - 07-07-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Amerion - 07-07-2018, 01:13 PM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-07-2018, 08:39 PM
[DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-08-2018, 10:11 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-08-2018, 10:57 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-10-2018, 05:52 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Amerion - 07-09-2018, 05:33 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Beepee - 07-14-2018, 10:12 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Escade - 07-15-2018, 12:22 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-18-2018, 08:01 AM
RE: [DISCUSSION]Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-22-2018, 04:18 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Belschaft - 07-22-2018, 08:55 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-22-2018, 11:32 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Belschaft - 07-22-2018, 12:30 PM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Escade - 07-23-2018, 02:30 AM
[AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-23-2018, 09:28 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Seraph - 07-24-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Belschaft - 07-25-2018, 07:46 AM
[AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-25-2018, 08:54 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Belschaft - 07-25-2018, 09:19 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Tsunamy - 07-25-2018, 10:07 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-25-2018, 04:17 PM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Escade - 07-26-2018, 12:45 AM
[AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-26-2018, 08:18 AM
[AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-26-2018, 08:24 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Tsunamy - 07-26-2018, 09:54 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Belschaft - 07-26-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Belschaft - 07-26-2018, 01:02 PM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-26-2018, 05:49 PM
[AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-26-2018, 01:39 PM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Escade - 07-26-2018, 05:23 PM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by The Sakhalinsk Empire - 07-27-2018, 04:38 AM
[AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by sandaoguo - 07-27-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] Delegates and Coups - by Roavin - 07-27-2018, 08:31 PM



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