Why in the world of TSP is ANY of what he said okie? RP or not?? We have a number of nations HERE in TSP that quietly go about their business and are never bothered or participate, should we get rid of them? Some have been here for Ages. If this were a UCR - sure within reason run your region how you see fit. However this is a GCR and they should know by now how things work. They are being *insert rude words here* and that is NOT okie.