(04-28-2020, 06:07 PM)rosaferri Wrote:

(04-28-2020, 05:56 PM)Roavin Wrote: So if I understand this correctly, the complaint is that this deliberation is being held in the region's dedicated deliberative body which is open to anyone including each individual on the Advisory Council, and they would prefer that such deliberations be done in back channels rather than out in the open as part of our liberal democratic processes.

If you're referring to Kringle, no, not at all.

It's literally what Kris said, though.

(04-28-2020, 05:00 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: A much more productive way to go around things would've been for Omega or others to approach the minister, deputies and seniors, talk about our mutual concerns with how the ministry works and try to figure out a common solution.

(04-28-2020, 06:07 PM)rosaferri Wrote: It's the subject matter that's the issue; splitting is far too often treated as the only possible and viable solution to an issue that (personally) I see as tangentially related. Splitting MoRA doesn't seem to be the best way to actually solving the issues discussed, so we want to discuss alternatives

Splitting the ministry isn't the one solution to all problems, and I'm sure most if not everybody currently on the pro-split side of the debate agree with that. Personally, I think an equal importance should be placed on finding better ways of getting people into the ministries, and there have been some discussions on this recently that are just waiting for me to summarize and put to the public for debate.

Meanwhile, the argument goes both ways, because the fact that quite a few people have openly stated that they would prefer running for one of the split positions rather than for the MoRA as a whole has certainly been ignored and/or brushed aside on the anti-split side of this.

(04-28-2020, 06:07 PM)rosaferri Wrote: We want to consider all of our options with you, the body of the assembly before we go to changing the charter altogether.

If this forum is not for talking about all of these things, what is it for?