(03-26-2015, 11:29 AM)BGP Wrote: Unfortunately, people in TEP at the time disagree with you about there not being a Empire of The East Pacific. East Malaysia (TEP citizen for nearly 11 years)  recently stated there was the group and also the government. No matter how much you post on the matter, you're not going to change what history has shown.

Purely historical revisionism - The Empire was a group, mostly of outside players from other GCRs, who couped The East Pacific and tried to develop a local government that suited their interests. They did not advertise themselves as "a Empire of The East Pacific," they were an organisation called The Empire - as you can see from ASBS's own testimony.

In 2011, UDL Intelligence recovered a list of names of those who had had been a member of The Empire in its Imperial Council - this was a body of experienced coupers and military and political gameplayers who were attempting to coup The East Pacific and implement and organise a new sovereign power in The East Pacific.

Evil Wolf was a member of this inner sanctum, as the info suggests...

Quote:I know a lot about the Empire mainly because I had a spy in their Imperial Council. The following were members of the Imperial Council:


Lady Phedre - Neenee
Lord Rahl - Biyah
Lady Anastasia - Dalimbar
High Priest Rashidi - Darth Zorn
Lady Edea - Der Fuhrer Deizel (sp)
Lady Tisiphone - Whamabama
Darksied - Ivan Moldavi
ChuckNorris - Enegro Montoya
Condition 13 - Blue Wolf
Helios - Agamemnon
The Black Necromancer - Westwind

Non-Council members of the Empire included Lord Griffin (New Kervoskia) and Spydude (yy4u of the West Pacific).

Here he was unmasked as "Condition 13" - his code-name. 

You'll note from the membership that this was an outside group - mostly made of high profile TNPers, TWPers and former ADNers - an organisation which tried and failed to form a sovereign state in The East Pacific. They however never did become the legitimate power in The East Pacific in the sense that the New Pacific Order is in The Pacific today. As we can see in the historical archives, their leadership was highly contested by natives like A Slanted Black Stripe and they voluntarily left The East Pacific - some of its members stuck with The Empire and followed them to TRR and Osiris and onwards, and some of its members parted ways (like Moldavi and potentially Blue Wolf), but this was nonetheless an organisation. 

One thing that may be overlooked here is that discontinuity plays a large role in The Empire's own image-making; they often contest the very idea of 'The Empire' - sometimes they  questioned whether The Empire has even continued to exist past 2008, othertimes they try to draw a discontinuity between The Empire in 2008 and The Empire in 2013, solely for convenience. Having a 'name' to the identify people like The Empire, rarely works in their favour, so they will often dispute the attribution and stress the historical discontinuities. While at other times, they'll gladly fly the Empire flag, use their code-name and admit there is a continued legacy present for the purposes of rattling cages or engendering fear or respect. The Empire has always been an organised conspiracy between players that is transregional - their members are aware of the difficult position that that puts it critics in identifying them and admonishing them because informal organisations - personal linkages with common private interests - can be dismissed colloquially even with evidence as rants and ravings. 

With this in mind, I beg the court to take a 'grain of salt' with those who stress the discontinuities within The Empire. If the argument had been the other way, members of The Empire would have gladly argued the opposite: that The Empire died in 2008 and it hasn't been a formal organisation since. Whatever discontinuity is convenient will be what they espouse. All I can do to disprove these claims is to show historical primary research that reveal how and in what ways The Empire conceptualized itself when Evil Wolf was a member.