(04-16-2015, 01:23 PM)Tsunamy Wrote:

(04-16-2015, 01:13 PM)Escade Wrote: We should have a regional channel that as Tsu suggested has clear guidelines and impartial Ops. I'm also open to working with Asta but the government should have some control over OPs.  I'm also open to having an official channel covered by the government.

Let's be clear. Asta is quite good of taking care of stuff in an impartial way.

And let me be clear, in no way have I not stated that. In fact, Asta is the one who unbanned me. She's not the only channel Op and this thread is about the channel Op who did ban me.

My issue is very clear TSP has no control over who gets OPs and let's be honest Raven isn't an impartial person. He's had falling outs with more then one prominent TSPer and he used the IRC channel and a completely meritless ban to make that clear. I actually don't care because he showed his level of maturity from banning me from his forums right after with the message "Abuse of power." People can run their regions and do what they want in their own space. TSP, on the other hand, is a community that all of us are trying to build together and our officially sanctioned channel is the TSP one.

QuietDad, so why do you keep logs then? I have logs since I started using IRC Cloud which is a godsend. You seem to be arguing two things, that seem contradictory. One is that the IRC channel is a place to vent without repercussions or government interference and then second that people who vent, and are not using any kind of offensive words, can be banned based on the political whims of a mod. So it is politicized then.

The number of people who have talked trash about GR or attacked him in that channel when he has not provoked it any way is astounding. Often, he isn't even there. Mods don't seem to care an iota about that. In fact, GR was recently banned temporarily for simply disagreeing.

Actually, that's why logs are important so people can't just BS their way out of situations. I care little for Unibot and if he's dropping the C word then I understand that ban. What I do not understand or accept is that one of the Ops in TSP brings their personal issues with players into Moderation. That is the antithesis of moderation.


Want to know why I was banned in Spiritus? It's very simple, a person, one who is a channel Op or gets that status in many regions, informed me of a rumor about Raven being one of the people who spread rumors about my being Earth among other things and I simply asked point blank if it was true or not. That's why I got banned. The day that Raven banned me was me basically discussing how disgusted I was by the way IRC had become a piling on attack against Kris, GR or anyone that people didn't politically agree with.

I'm sick of it and the vicious cycle that comes from it because its simple if you attack and trash the "right" people you get a pat on the back or a gold star but if you try to defend people from lowly attacks you get warned or threatened or banned.

Oh and P.S. QD calling people bastards\bastardettes because they want to pursue a case on a player who tried to vote stack - why is that any more acceptable? It isn't, it shouldn't be. I do not accept anyone referring to me as bastardette but I guess its okay because you're an Op, right?

Oh wait, you're going to argue it was a joke, right? That argument then makes moderation itself a joke.