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TSP Zombie Infection Prevention Party
#31

Why would I work with groups that I think are part of the problem? It is just like working with nations that choose to infect.
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#32

fair enough
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#33

(10-17-2014, 07:58 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Why would I work with groups that I think are part of the problem? It is just like working with nations that choose to infect.

Did Pata or I say you were the problem? My plan specifically protects cure nations from pro-kill action. The idea isn't to kill your populace. Simply to neutralize the horde nations so that the cure nations can't work in peace. I don't see how that's like working with horde nations at all.

I'll put it in big text for you. THE ONLY NATIONS THAT WILL BE KILLED ARE HORDE NATIONS...INFECTION NATIONS

^No cure or kill nations, just horde nations. A small portion of the region.

You have to understand we will have enough of a time trying to cure dozens, possibly hundreds of inactive nations without horde nations causing us problems. You're refusing to eject them blaming the charter. I can respect that, but if you won't deal with hostile players then someone has to take initiative.
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#34

I am not saying you can't choose to kill. I am saying that I will not endorse or otherwise approve killing as opposed to (or in collaboration with) curing. My problem with killing is that it increases the dead count. I don't care if those dead were living or infected, it's irrelevant to me. The way I see it, the only option is to increase our survival rate. Decreasing our infection rate is a secondary objective.

Speaking of the Charter, obviously I can't ignore the part that says all nations have a right to reside in the region. If anyone (general call here, not just you) feels we should lift the rules during Z-Day, it'd be interesting if they submitted a draft in the Assembly, so we can debate it. Though again, I'd be against the Delegate having the power to eject or ban nations without due process, even for one day.
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#35

The way I see it, such a draft would require amending Articles six and seven of The Code of Laws to criminalize spreading the infection, treating it as an individual hostile action against TSP and also creating a standard act of punishment for said action while simultaneously barring any permanent legal action.

#36

(10-17-2014, 02:59 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: I am not saying you can't choose to kill. I am saying that I will not endorse or otherwise approve killing as opposed to (or in collaboration with) curing. My problem with killing is that it increases the dead count. I don't care if those dead were living or infected, it's irrelevant to me. The way I see it, the only option is to increase our survival rate. Decreasing our infection rate is a secondary objective.

Speaking of the Charter, obviously I can't ignore the part that says all nations have a right to reside in the region. If anyone (general call here, not just you) feels we should lift the rules during Z-Day, it'd be interesting if they submitted a draft in the Assembly, so we can debate it. Though again, I'd be against the Delegate having the power to eject or ban nations without due process, even for one day.
I'm with you on that, It doesn't seem right to eject nations just because the part they played in a what is more or less an interactive rp, like you said we're at an impasse. Just a classic case of two groups who strongly believe they're right, and in the end it all falls down to one's agenda. The best thing to do is bring the issue to a close. Torchwood, just because Kris doesn't agree with our views doesn't mean we still can't promote it. After all TSP even has a fascist party.
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#37

(10-17-2014, 05:02 PM)CrimsonTideFan Wrote: Torchwood, just because Kris doesn't agree with our views doesn't mean we still can't promote it. After all TSP even has a fascist party.

You are absolutely right. You should kill if you think that is the better option. In the end, the real objective here is to have fun, regardless of which option you choose. :wink:
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#38

(10-17-2014, 05:15 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:
(10-17-2014, 05:02 PM)CrimsonTideFan Wrote: Torchwood, just because Kris doesn't agree with our views doesn't mean we still can't promote it. After all TSP even has a fascist party.

You are absolutely right. You should kill if you think that is the better option. In the end, the real objective here is to have fun, regardless of which option you choose. :wink:

Agreed, best of luck to you
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#39

Drastic times call for drastic measures. The zombies may starve themselves if they gain ground in a country or they may overrun the larger ones. While curing will protect the supporters for both cure and kill, curing those that embrace is futile and only allows them to continue to spread.

Killing zombies is a necessary evil here, and will inevitably save more lives than it will kill.
#40

Though as stated in the official announcement, the more of us that cure the better the overall infectionrate is.




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