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#21
07-27-2022, 02:49 PM

(07-27-2022, 01:26 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote:
(07-27-2022, 01:25 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:
(07-27-2022, 12:51 PM)Proctethia Wrote: How are you supposed to know whether MoD means Minister or Ministry of Defense?

Then again, it's not like that's such a major issue.

I think it is, in some respect.

How?
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07-27-2022, 02:53 PM

Well, just to put it simple and clearly, when someone says MoE, you don't know what they are referencing to (in most scenarios.) 

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Person A: Well, trading cards have their own bureau in TSP! The MoE is great for doing that!

M could = minister or ministry
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#23
07-27-2022, 03:56 PM

So what though? It's still abundantly clear that you're referring to the Engagement portfolio.
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07-27-2022, 04:06 PM

(07-27-2022, 03:56 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: So what though? It's still abundantly clear that you're referring to the Engagement portfolio.

But it could be the Minister Griffindor, the ministry itself.
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07-27-2022, 04:17 PM

But so what if it's one or the other? Why is that such a problem?
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#26
07-27-2022, 04:35 PM

(07-27-2022, 04:17 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: But so what if it's one or the other? Why is that such a problem?
In general, it just gets confusing. And some get easily confused and want to change it, so it is more understandable.
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#27
07-27-2022, 07:27 PM

I get where you are coming from, but in general, I think the context clues of the conversation would help determine what/who is being referenced.

"oh yeah, just speak to the MoE; they probably have the answer you are looking for." Obviously in this situation, it would be impractical to think that talking to the ministry is best, so it's safe to assume the minister is who is being referenced.

"I'm sure the MoE has something that might suit your skill in writing." In this case, it is impractical to think that the minister personally has something that you would need to do; instead, the ministry has a writing division that would be of use, so assuming that the ministry was being referenced would be a safe bet.
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#28
07-27-2022, 07:52 PM

(07-27-2022, 07:27 PM)Griffindor Wrote: "I'm sure the MoE has something that might suit your skill in writing." In this case, it is impractical to think that the minister personally has something that you would need to do; instead, the ministry has a writing division that would be of use, so assuming that the ministry was being referenced would be a safe bet.

I would say that, even if one does read that as referring to the minister rather than the ministry, our community is so relatively small that there's little functional difference between talking about the minister and the ministry in such a context. If you want to know more about a ministry you probably want to talk to the minister anyway.
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#29
07-31-2022, 02:36 AM

Alternatively, don’t use abbreviations at all.
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#30
08-29-2022, 02:25 AM

I like Secretariat and Director but this isn't very nessacry usually there enough context clue mot allways but usually there is enough
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