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**Belschaft** · 01-25-2015, 10:50 PM

(01-25-2015, 10:36 PM)Sopo Wrote: I guess it's a little bit concerning that our MoA couldn't make updates? Essentially you will be outsourcing leadership of the SPSF to other military organizations, if I understand correctly.

Major update for me, like any European, is at 4/5AM. I haven't been able to make that consistently since 2012. I can make minor update most of the time, but most operations occur at major.

My intention is to make use of the expertise of our allies to bring our forces up to scratch. The biggest part of that would be training our own people so we can return to independent update operations in the near future, but as I intend to reconstruct our armed forces with an emphasis on supporting allies you could expect to see allied military officers in leadership roles as part of an MPA. The most effective way to train people is to send them on operations, and as most of the operations we deploy on will be allied it makes sense to place their operational lead in command of our own troops assisting them. It's a simpler and more practical command structure than a parallel system with an SPSF officer taking the details of the operation from an NPA/RRA/ERN officer and passing them along.

You could call it outsourcing, but I tend to think of it as acquiring formalized allied assistance.

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01-25-2015, 11:08 PM

How can we trust you?

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~~Unibot~~ · 01-25-2015, 11:10 PM

(01-25-2015, 09:49 PM)Belschaft Wrote:
(01-25-2015, 09:31 PM)Unibot Wrote:
Quote:Do you have any evidence of such, or are you in a mood for unsupported accusations today?

Were you not just recalled because of evidence that you intended to misuse your position as Chief Justice, and manipulate our elections?

If you'd like I could dig up the logs again. The old "show me the evidence" counter doesn't work so well now that you've been caught red handed and the logs are freely available.
Actually, I wasn't. If you want to go back and read the logs you'll note that the discussion concerned suspicions that "bought" voters had been brought in to the region and efforts to either prove such or counter it.

There's also this very important word - intended. What happened was I had a couple of conversations with a few people, and then dropped the matter when it was concluded that our suspicions were probably incorrect. It only surfaced months later as part of an orchestrated character assassination.

The reality is that there was no substance to the allegations you lodged whatsoever, which was why I never faced any kind of criminal charges - because I never broke any laws.

Your ability to stir up a mob with selective provision of IRC logs shorn of context is one thing, but when you can't follow up with criminal charges it's advisable to stop making accusations you can't support.

Sorry, you're acting like you didn't do anything wrong. I can't believe you'd think that would fly with anyone here.

**Belschaft** · 01-25-2015, 11:29 PM

(01-25-2015, 11:08 PM)Henn Wrote: How can we trust you?

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I'd argue that my record of government service, including multiple terms as both Delegate and Minister of Security, speaks for itself.

Against that you have the wild accusations of Unibot, who's trying to spin two short conversations into some grand criminal conspiracy, but yet is unable to present any kind of evidence to support criminal charges.

If there was any basis whatsoever behind them I'd have been tried for treason months ago. I wasn't.

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01-25-2015, 11:30 PM

That was decidedly not the answer I was looking for.

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**Belschaft** · 01-25-2015, 11:35 PM

(01-25-2015, 11:10 PM)Unibot Wrote:
(01-25-2015, 09:49 PM)Belschaft Wrote:
(01-25-2015, 09:31 PM)Unibot Wrote:
Quote:Do you have any evidence of such, or are you in a mood for unsupported accusations today?

Were you not just recalled because of evidence that you intended to misuse your position as Chief Justice, and manipulate our elections?

If you'd like I could dig up the logs again. The old "show me the evidence" counter doesn't work so well now that you've been caught red handed and the logs are freely available.
Actually, I wasn't. If you want to go back and read the logs you'll note that the discussion concerned suspicions that "bought" voters had been brought in to the region and efforts to either prove such or counter it.

There's also this very important word - intended. What happened was I had a couple of conversations with a few people, and then dropped the matter when it was concluded that our suspicions were probably incorrect. It only surfaced months later as part of an orchestrated character assassination.

The reality is that there was no substance to the allegations you lodged whatsoever, which was why I never faced any kind of criminal charges - because I never broke any laws.

Your ability to stir up a mob with selective provision of IRC logs shorn of context is one thing, but when you can't follow up with criminal charges it's advisable to stop making accusations you can't support.

Sorry, you're acting like you didn't do anything wrong. I can't believe you'd think that would fly with anyone here.

I didn't do anything wrong. I discussed suspected voter importation and possible countermeasures with several people, and after further evaluation decided not to proceed with further action. The fact that months later you managed to use those logs for character assassination does not change the facts. If you have any evidence that I broke the law feel free to charge me.

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01-25-2015, 11:45 PM

Case in point.(I'll get to the point. )

How can you expect to attract voters if you consistently respond to Unibot's attacks with your own?

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**Belschaft** · 01-25-2015, 11:58 PM

(01-25-2015, 11:45 PM)Henn Wrote: Case in point.(I'll get to the point. )

How can you expect to attract voters if you consistently respond to Unibot's attacks with your own?

Ah, the wonders of technology. I'm on Tapatalk!

I don't believe I attacked Unibot by inviting him to charge me with a crime if he has any evidence to support his accusations.

It is up to voters to decide whether or not to believe the accusations of someone who is unable or unwilling to press charges.

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southern bellz · 01-26-2015, 12:19 AM

Can you go into detail about your previous military roles?

Why do you think we need to abandon running operations on our own? I understand that you will not regularly be on at update, but couldnt you be on at update on days you plan operations?

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**Belschaft** · 01-26-2015, 12:38 AM

(01-26-2015, 12:19 AM)southern bellz Wrote: Can you go into detail about your previous military roles?

My military career started in EiD and the FRA, before I moved to the UDL when it was founded. I also founded TSP's modern armed forces when I created the SPA in 2011 whilst serving as MoS, and was a member of the Cat Burglars. My most significant command role was in the UDL as a Lt., where I was one of the principal minor commanders. I have a background principally as a defender, but have also acted as a raider, and since 2012 have been an Independent. I also have extensive experience in regional security and counter espionage, and worked against coup attempts in TSP in 2011 and 2013, when I was the principal strategist against the Milograd coup. I have been involved in some kind of military role almost constantly between 2011 and 2014.

(01-26-2015, 12:19 AM)southern bellz Wrote: Why do you think we need to abandon running operations on our own? I understand that you will not regularly be on at update, but couldnt you be on at update on days you plan operations?

I don't think we currently have the military capacity to run major independent update operations, and I believe we need to spend time rebuilding that by recruiting new soldiers and training them up. They are also not a priority of mine, as I think our focus should be on supporting our allies most of the time. The military is a tool of foreign affairs, and it can best serve us in that area at present by building strong institutional bonds.

I'd like to get us back to the point where we can run major independent operations, but I see that as being several months down the line, and even then they will not be my first priority.

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