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[Discussion] Electoral Fraud Operation "Brave Little Toaster" and CSS Involvement
#11

The CSS is clearly bringing TSP into disrepute. I expect both diplomatic and political consequences should we continue to give these charlatans free reign over their own affairs.

I motion to abolish the CSS, and cast every member out of the region until they submit to invasive and detailed security examinations and protocols. All in the name of our security, you know.
#12

(02-05-2015, 07:39 AM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: The CSS is clearly bringing TSP into disrepute. I expect both diplomatic and political consequences should we continue to give these charlatans free reign over their own affairs.

I motion to abolish the CSS, and cast every member out of the region until they submit to invasive and detailed security examinations and protocols. All in the name of our security, you know.

I think that this is going too far, but the law must be upheld equally and fairly to all people. An investigation must take place into all people potentially implicated in this.
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#13

(02-05-2015, 09:26 AM)Darkstrait Wrote:
(02-05-2015, 07:39 AM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: The CSS is clearly bringing TSP into disrepute. I expect both diplomatic and political consequences should we continue to give these charlatans free reign over their own affairs.

I motion to abolish the CSS, and cast every member out of the region until they submit to invasive and detailed security examinations and protocols. All in the name of our security, you know.

I think that this is going too far, but the law must be upheld equally and fairly to all people. An investigation must take place into all people potentially implicated in this.

Nope. People wanted the SPSF abolished because it brings the region into disrepute, opens the doors for political and diplomatic problems and is a waste of resources.

Despite the fact that it hasn't done any of the above. The CSS however, now has. These allegations that members of the CSS were involved in a plot to undermine the region only tells me for sure that it's time to dissolve it. We can have a new system in place led by a girl scout or Penguin that will be a neutered, barely able to think for itself committee which needs to be told how to think. I'm thinking of calling it the regional guard.

I also propose we have Mall recruit for it.
#14

This is a very amusing thread. Unibot's mysterious desire to eliminate defamation as a crime was particularly hilarious. It's almost as if he knew that he'd been committing it...

Oh, and it's six days now.
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#15

(02-05-2015, 09:34 AM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: Nope. People wanted the SPSF abolished because it brings the region into disrepute, opens the doors for political and diplomatic problems and is a waste of resources.

Despite the fact that it hasn't done any of the above. The CSS however, now has. These allegations that members of the CSS were involved in a plot to undermine the region only tells me for sure that it's time to dissolve it. We can have a new system in place led by a girl scout or Penguin that will be a neutered, barely able to think for itself committee which needs to be told how to think. I'm thinking of calling it the regional guard.

I also propose we have Mall recruit for it.

Yes but unlike the SPSF the CSS is useful.
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#16

(02-05-2015, 11:28 AM)Punchwood Wrote:
(02-05-2015, 09:34 AM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: Nope. People wanted the SPSF abolished because it brings the region into disrepute, opens the doors for political and diplomatic problems and is a waste of resources.

Despite the fact that it hasn't done any of the above. The CSS however, now has. These allegations that members of the CSS were involved in a plot to undermine the region only tells me for sure that it's time to dissolve it. We can have a new system in place led by a girl scout or Penguin that will be a neutered, barely able to think for itself committee which needs to be told how to think. I'm thinking of calling it the regional guard.

I also propose we have Mall recruit for it.

Yes but unlike the SPSF the CSS is useful.

Is it?

The SPSF has been useful in improving links with our various allies through a variety of operations. It has also been a facet of activity in our various alliances, it has given the Ministry of Foreign Affairs something to do in discussing possible operations with interested parties on behalf of the Minister of the Army and the Generals Corps.

By contrast, the CSS just sits there, and now apparently colludes with people to undermine our democratic processes, Punch.
#17

Apparently is the key word.
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#18

(02-05-2015, 11:32 AM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: By contrast, the CSS just sits there, and now apparently colludes with people to undermine our democratic processes, Punch.

We are currently having an internal discussion about these allegations. I wouldn't jump the gun on the collusion accusation just yet.

(02-05-2015, 11:34 AM)Belschaft Wrote: Apparently is the key word.

You are a different story.

By the way, don't expect any apologies or retractions from me. I will not be bullied by the very person who tried to subvert our democracy because he couldn't accept its results.
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#19

(02-04-2015, 09:51 PM)Penguin Wrote: What we need is a list of CSS members who were active during this time frame.

I'm not sure Belschaft's admission meant active or former CSS members, or what. 

I do think that closing the CSS down would be a step too far and signal instability to our allies, Raven. But I could see the value in a report on the CSS and its members involvement in Brave Little Toaster. 
#20

(02-05-2015, 10:43 AM)Belschaft Wrote: Oh, and it's six days now.

That's intimidation as far as I'm concerned. Please stop it. 




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