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#21

(02-11-2015, 07:39 PM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: There is no good or evil in gameplay. No black or white. It is shades of grey. I don't feel morality comes into this, at all.
*puts on innocent face*
How many shades of gray? Fifty?
*gets serious*
Plus, the word "banject" is vague at best.
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#22

Well, forget it. There's a lot of opposition for this proposal. I thought this was a great idea, but if TSP doesn't want the proposal to pass, then Im fine with it. Sorry for bothering. I thought it was a good idea.
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#23

I don't fault you for trying Ryccia. You have good intentions. The road to hell is paved with good intentions I'm afraid, but I do recommend that you do spend some time exploring gameplay and everything it has for you.
#24

I'm not entirely opposed Ryccia, but I think there are enough other proposals raised as part of the GC to deal with first. Hopefully this will happen some time soon...
#25

TBR griefs quite regularly. Did you not watch The Mountains To The East, Ryccia? Lone Wolves United griefs. The Black Hawks also grief. Nazis grief as well! Any raid that isn't intended for fun is going to involve griefing. Do you count banjecting the natives of Warzones also griefing? ^_^ 

Banjecting natives is common practice, although I don't agree with it personally. From a more practical standpoint, if you don't want your raid liberated, narrow down the threats. 

Banjecting natives can be a personal preference in raiding activity, malicious, or purely tactical act, and you'd do better to encourage a friendlier sentiment to native communities than to force something to legislature and create opposition.
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#26

You have good intentions and Ryccia, your proposal isnt some radical idea but i agree with Aram and LR on this.
Apad
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#27

I'm always surprised at how resistant TSP is to the idea of regulating the SPSF. That seems really commonplace for armies. EPSA is regulated, NPA is regulated, but in TSP we see the need to have our army be as wild as the wild wild west! Tounge For saying we tend to like to think of the SPSF as being moderate - on paper, SPSF is one of the more radical of the GCR armies. 

Quote:If this were a small user created region Ryccia, I'd agree and say, "you're right, TSP doesn't need that", but we're not. We are one of the diplomatic powers in this game. We are a decade old feeder region with a huge history and diplomatic presence in other regions - we have some extraordinarily powerful allies, including Europeia, The North Pacific, The Rejected Realms, Balder and Lazarus who do not lie down and let external forces dictate how their militaries act.


I don't care about being seen as the bad guy. I care about letting the SPSF control its own operations - by all means we can work on an agreed code of conduct if necessary, but banjecting is part of Gameplay. Amongst various other things.

And I think this position is absolutely despicable and pathetic. 

The South Pacific is a large, powerful and influential region - that doesn't give us the right to trot over other regions. Our size, power and prominence gives us the responsibility to be global leaders - a benchmark for others. There's nothing powerful about attacking regions smaller than you. Certainly it says something about us, but it doesn't say "powerful". The truly powerful are responsible for their actions and respectful and compassion for that matter. 
#28

I can't find it in me to care. That argument needs to be aimed at people who are morally or emotionally invested in gameplay. I am neither. I have never been either. You know this. EVERYONE who knows me knows this.

Once upon a time, I leant defender. Then I got backstabbed so many times by Quad playing both sides, and people handing my RL information over to other defenders that I decided enough was enough. Now I don't care about the various arguments. I will support whatever SPSF wants to do because they want to do it and I don't care either way.
#29

(02-11-2015, 10:19 PM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: Once upon a time, I leant defender. Then I got backstabbed so many times by Quad playing both sides, and people handing my RL information over to other defenders that I decided enough was enough. Now I don't care about the various arguments. I will support whatever SPSF wants to do because they want to do it and I don't care either way.

I don't particularly understand what the personal conduct of Quad has to do with your beliefs and the perception of your own responsibilities in-game.
#30

Jeez, not this again. My head will explode if we get into yet another argument about how we should be this benevolent power, or how we should just do whatever is fun.

Let's just forget it, and move on. I'm honestly tired of the same debate over and over again.
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