| Socialism versus Capitalism |
There are probably at least half a dozen places on the forums where socialism has been defined.
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Honestly I find this hard myself to find a side I like better, I mean socialism has a lot of things going for it, I mean, you have equal distribution of money which nullifies the gap between the rich and poor; but the problem I have is that you'd have to rely on the government for every basic need, and that your money is not your money, it's everyone's. My problem resides in the fact that some jobs are harder than others. A plant worker who busts his ass everyday gets the same amount of money as a lazy desk jockey. TAC, you said that capitalism is dangerous. Yes, you are totally correct. But what really makes it dangerous is the fact that you have a choice in which you own the consequences of whatever action you make, the good and the bad. People like Bill Gates, or Henry Ford, came up with great ideas which they patented, and they themselves became wealthy off that idea; or people like Blockbuster, who flopped. If you come up with an idea, it should yours to use however you want, you can give back to the community or use it for self gain. To me, capitalism gives me the freedom to choose what I can do with a great idea. This is why in the end I'm more of a capitalist than a socialist.
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But I will go on to say that, I'm not against government-owned businesses participating in the market along with private companies.
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Ryccia, your view on communism is very skewed, but then again with us being Americans, it's relatively understandable. Here's the thing about those nations that were insanely radical. That's the thing, they were RADICAL. The jumped to a place beyond reason. If you really want to judge socialism, or even communism on such a thing; let's look at a few mishaps of capitalists.
-BK Kim, Geohazards specialist for BP and gave the world an idea about the amount of petroleum in the Gulf Coast that got spilled on the sea floor and how it's damaging the environment; also brought up the corner cutting, and half ass work BP did to make sure a leak wouldn't happen, has had multiple assassination attempts on his life. -Any kind of drug-related war, cocaine, opium, you name it, if there's a illegal market for it, rival gangs will kill each other to control it. -Bribery, vote-buying, etc., <-this one's pretty easy to understand but what the hell we'll name a few; KKK members payed to intimidate people to vote for certain people, Kellogg Brown & Root case, KBR built an illegal natural gas plant and paid the Nigerian government to okay it, and PG&E vs. the town of Hinkley, CA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_gro...tamination Capitalism is far, far from perfect Ryccia; and judging socialism by comparing it to people like: Castro, Pol Pot, Stalin, Kim Jong Il & Un is just like judging Islam by looking at ISIS, the Taliban, and Al-Qaeda. Nothing is good when it's used or taken to extremes.
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(05-09-2015, 10:58 PM)CrimsonTideFan Wrote: Judging socialism by comparing it to people like: Castro, Pol Pot, Stalin, Kim Jong Il & Un is just like judging Islam by looking at ISIS, the Taliban, and Al-Qaeda. Nothing is good when it's used or taken to extremes. How true this is...
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Former Justice, Former Local Councilor, Roleplayer, Former SPSF Deputy for Recruitment, Politically Active Citizen, Ex-Spammer Supreme, and Resident Geek "Hats is very fashion this year." (05-09-2015, 10:10 PM)CrimsonTideFan Wrote: Honestly I find this hard myself to find a side I like better, I mean socialism has a lot of things going for it, I mean, you have equal distribution of money which nullifies the gap between the rich and poor; but the problem I have is that you'd have to rely on the government for every basic need, and that your money is not your money, it's everyone's. My problem resides in the fact that some jobs are harder than others. A plant worker who busts his ass everyday gets the same amount of money as a lazy desk jockey. TAC, you said that capitalism is dangerous. Yes, you are totally correct. But what really makes it dangerous is the fact that you have a choice in which you own the consequences of whatever action you make, the good and the bad. People like Bill Gates, or Henry Ford, came up with great ideas which they patented, and they themselves became wealthy off that idea; or people like Blockbuster, who flopped. If you come up with an idea, it should yours to use however you want, you can give back to the community or use it for self gain. To me, capitalism gives me the freedom to choose what I can do with a great idea. This is why in the end I'm more of a capitalist than a socialist.Hear hear!
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(05-10-2015, 08:45 PM)Ryccia Wrote:(05-09-2015, 10:10 PM)CrimsonTideFan Wrote: Honestly I find this hard myself to find a side I like better, I mean socialism has a lot of things going for it, I mean, you have equal distribution of money which nullifies the gap between the rich and poor; but the problem I have is that you'd have to rely on the government for every basic need, and that your money is not your money, it's everyone's. My problem resides in the fact that some jobs are harder than others. A plant worker who busts his ass everyday gets the same amount of money as a lazy desk jockey. TAC, you said that capitalism is dangerous. Yes, you are totally correct. But what really makes it dangerous is the fact that you have a choice in which you own the consequences of whatever action you make, the good and the bad. People like Bill Gates, or Henry Ford, came up with great ideas which they patented, and they themselves became wealthy off that idea; or people like Blockbuster, who flopped. If you come up with an idea, it should yours to use however you want, you can give back to the community or use it for self gain. To me, capitalism gives me the freedom to choose what I can do with a great idea. This is why in the end I'm more of a capitalist than a socialist.Hear hear! Awesome. Now read Crimson's latest post, because it explains precisely what is wrong with your arguments against socialism. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
Posts outside High Court venues should be taken as those of any other legislator. I do not participate in the regional server, but I am happy to talk through instant messaging or on the forum. Legal Resources: THE MATT-DUCK Law Archive | Mavenu Diplomatic Archive | Rules of the High Court | Case Submission System | Online Rulings Consultation System (05-09-2015, 10:58 PM)CrimsonTideFan Wrote: Ryccia, your view on communism is very skewed, but then again with us being Americans, it's relatively understandable. Here's the thing about those nations that were insanely radical. That's the thing, they were RADICAL. The jumped to a place beyond reason. If you really want to judge socialism, or even communism on such a thing; let's look at a few mishaps of capitalists. I know that capitalism is flawed. But I like the system(without corruption of course). For me, its better than communism or socialism. But what does a drug gang war have to do with capitalism? Im anti-drugs btw.
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