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2016 in America
#711

(07-26-2016, 08:03 PM)Cathalea Wrote: I'll be the first to say that punch is literally saying the best option for liberals. To split the vote is to hand Trump the Presidency. I will explain if necessary.

When I get on Twitter, Trump supporters always say that a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Clinton, and Clinton supporters always say that a vote for anyone but Clinton is a vote for Trump. If these two statements are combined, they're basically saying that a vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson is a vote for Trump and Clinton. The truth of the matter is that the Libertarian ticket will hurt Trump and the Green ticket will hurt Clinton. I'm gonna vote for Jill Stein and there is no way that anyone will swing my vote away from her. I see both Clinton and Trump as liars and incompetent leaders, and I don't want to look back on Election Day 2016 saying that I voted for either Clinton or Trump.

Besides, the presidential election in the United States is set up with an archaic electoral system. California's Republican Party is basically dead, and my vote for Jill Stein will not hurt Clinton nor help Trump, because she won this state in the primaries. If you are a voter in Ohio, Florida, or any other swing state, your vote is much more important than mine.
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#712

(08-04-2016, 10:03 PM)Qvait Wrote:
(07-26-2016, 08:03 PM)Cathalea Wrote: I'll be the first to say that punch is literally saying the best option for liberals. To split the vote is to hand Trump the Presidency. I will explain if necessary.

When I get on Twitter, Trump supporters always say that a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Clinton, and Clinton supporters always say that a vote for anyone but Clinton is a vote for Trump. If these two statements are combined, they're basically saying that a vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson is a vote for Trump and Clinton. The truth of the matter is that the Libertarian ticket will hurt Trump and the Green ticket will hurt Clinton. I'm gonna vote for Jill Stein and there is no way that anyone will swing my vote away from her. I see both Clinton and Trump as liars and incompetent leaders, and I don't want to look back on Election Day 2016 saying that I voted for either Clinton or Trump.

Besides, the presidential election in the United States is set up with an archaic electoral system. California's Republican Party is basically dead, and my vote for Jill Stein will not hurt Clinton nor help Trump, because she won this state in the primaries. If you are a voter in Ohio, Florida, or any other swing state, your vote is much more important than mine.
It's up to you who you vote for, even if you want to waste that vote. See how easy it is to look into your children's and grand-children's eyes and say how you helped Trump win election. This is not a normal election, anything could happen.
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#713

(08-05-2016, 10:01 AM)Punchwood Wrote: It's up to you who you vote for, even if you want to waste that vote. See how easy it is to look into your children's and grand-children's eyes and say how you helped Trump win election. This is not a normal election, anything could happen.

I'll be quoting this when California doesn't give its 55 electoral votes to Trump.
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#714

Someone's climbing Trump Tower right now.
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#715

So, the debate was a few days ago, but I doubt that it swayed anyone's opinions, let alone the opinions on this forum. At this point, 80 to 90% of eligible voting Americans have made up their minds as to who they're going to vote for or whether they're going to vote at all. Whether Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton wins, the vast majority of Americans will not be enthusiastic about their next President and I'm going to be one of them. So, here's to hoping the next President will be a one-term President. I hope Tusli Gabbard, the former Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee who resigned from her position to endorse Bernie Sanders, runs for President in 2020. I would be very enthusiastic to vote for her, as much as I was in supporting Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries.
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#716

(08-06-2016, 12:47 AM)Qvait Wrote:
(08-05-2016, 10:01 AM)Punchwood Wrote: It's up to you who you vote for, even if you want to waste that vote. See how easy it is to look into your children's and grand-children's eyes and say how you helped Trump win election. This is not a normal election, anything could happen.

I'll be quoting this when California doesn't give its 55 electoral votes to Trump.

It won't be still. I'm not angry anymore just disappointed that you won't back the nominee of your party. Had Sanders won Clinton supporters would have backed him straight away, she would have endorsed him straight away. Refusing to endorse your party's nominee because you can't accept the fact that your candidate lost because he lost is simply sad.
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#717

(09-29-2016, 04:52 AM)Qvait Wrote:
So, the debate was a few days ago, but I doubt that it swayed anyone's opinions, let alone the opinions on this forum. At this point, 80 to 90% of eligible voting Americans have made up their minds as to who they're going to vote for or whether they're going to vote at all. Whether Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton wins, the vast majority of Americans will not be enthusiastic about their next President and I'm going to be one of them. So, here's to hoping the next President will be a one-term President. I hope Tusli Gabbard, the former Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee who resigned from her position to endorse Bernie Sanders, runs for President in 2020. I would be very enthusiastic to vote for her, as much as I was in supporting Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries.
I don’t think nearly that many voters have made their minds up yet and the polls would support me. Also I think it will have convinced some minds and no doubt Clinton will receive a small bump in the polls like Romany did in 2012 after his successful debate. On 2020 you want someone dull and mordate like Tim Kaine to run because after 12 years of Dems in the Presidency the odds of them winning the White House will be low. That’s if Clinton only serves one term and at first I thought that was likely now I’m think she may try and serve two.
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#718

(09-29-2016, 05:32 PM)Punchwood Wrote:
(08-06-2016, 12:47 AM)Qvait Wrote:
(08-05-2016, 10:01 AM)Punchwood Wrote: It's up to you who you vote for, even if you want to waste that vote. See how easy it is to look into your children's and grand-children's eyes and say how you helped Trump win election. This is not a normal election, anything could happen.

I'll be quoting this when California doesn't give its 55 electoral votes to Trump.

It won't be still. I'm not angry anymore just disappointed that you won't back the nominee of your party. Had Sanders won Clinton supporters would have backed him straight away, she would have endorsed him straight away. Refusing to endorse your party's nominee because you can't accept the fact that your candidate lost because he lost is simply sad.

First of all, my loyalties are not to party, it is to country. Second of all, I will not vote for a candidate that is unable to maintain the same political stances and was irresponsible in her handling of Benghazi, choosing not to heed the warnings of intelligence officials of what was coming; nor can I support a candidate that is too erratic. My country would be better served by someone other than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
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#719

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#completeanarchy2016
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