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Resolution on the Coalition
#71

(02-03-2016, 06:31 PM)Belschaft Wrote: Hmm.... I hadn't actually considered how long the special election would last; a temporary cabinet probably is required.

That is the legal requirement for an election. Yes I would prefer a temporary Cabinet however for that to happen we would need to debate it, motion it and the second it and then spend three days voting on it. Then and only then would we be able to call a special election. That is too long in my option and that is why we should skip over a temporary Cabinet.
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#72

(02-03-2016, 06:19 PM)Punchwood Wrote: No I also don't see the point in creating a temporary Cabinet as we are going to fight and bicker about it for the next few days meaning that it's going to take even longer for an election to happen. Therefore I propose the following:

1: Special elections for all Cabinet positions shall be held from the 5th of February till the 14th of February.
2. Sandaoguo shall serve as Electoral Commissioner.
3. Those elected to the Cabinet shall take their seats immediately after being elected.
4. Those elected to the Cabinet shall serve until the March General Elections.

I believe Eluvatar is going to handle the elections. Not that Glen couldn't help as well.

Additionally, I could get behind no temp cabinet, but we would at least need an Acting Delegate/VD.
The CSS is in rough shape, plus we are still debating the amnesty of those involved I think.
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#73

Yes we definitely need an acting Del maybe not so much a VD however. I saw Eluvatar was going to hold elections after I posted that and I couldn't be bother fixing it Happywide
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#74

The Assembly of the South Pacific,

Hereby resolves the following:

Section A: Transition

1. The Cabinet elected in November 2015 is immediately removed from office.
2. A special election will be held within 72 hours of the passage of this law for all Cabinet positions. Those elected will immediately take their seats and serve the remainder of the interrupted term.
3. Where a Cabinet position is vacant due to resignation, the mandated special election will be suspended in favour of the one mandated in the above clause.
4. Until a new Cabinet is elected Tsunamy will serve as Interim Delegate.

Section B: Reconciliation

1. A Great Council shall be convened as soon as 7 days and no later than 30 days after a new Cabinet is elected, with a mandate to completely revise all laws of the Coalition.

Section C: Passage Requirements

1. This law shall be held to the same standards of voting and passage as an amendment to the Charter.
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#75

(02-03-2016, 06:50 PM)Drugged Monkeys Wrote: The Assembly of the South Pacific,

Hereby resolves the following:

Section A: Transition

1. The Cabinet elected in November 2015 is immediately removed from office.
2. A special election will be held within 72 hours of the passage of this law for all Cabinet positions. Those elected will immediately take their seats and serve the remainder of the interrupted term.
3. Where a Cabinet position is vacant due to resignation, the mandated special election will be suspended in favour of the one mandated in the above clause.
4. Until a new Cabinet is elected Tsunamy will serve as Interim Delegate.

Section B: Reconciliation

1. A Great Council shall be convened as soon as 7 days and no later than 30 days after a new Cabinet is elected, with a mandate to completely revise all laws of the Coalition.
2. All individuals involved in the forum move and the Transitional Government will receive a general amnesty for their actions, conditional on good behaviour and revocable by the Assembly for a period of six months.

Section C: Passage Requirements

1. This law shall be held to the same standards of voting and passage as an amendment to the Charter.

Would a general amnesty with a six month period for possible revocation in cases of bad behaviour satisfy everyone?
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#76

At this point , I do not mind the amnesty part.
However, if that is what is going to hold this entire amendment up for the next week, then I'll have to go against including it on this amendment.
It may need to be handled separately is all I'm saying.
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#77

I'm not entirely comfortable with lacking a Cabinet for the entirety of the election process. If we are already including provisions for a new delegate, there really is no harm in filling all other positions from the Cabinet. It is not vital to the region, but it is something we could benefit from doing, so as to keep vacancies to a minimum.

I really am not sure about granting amnesty for all Cabinet members. Some defected and have expressed a willingness to work for reform within the constraints of the law. Some have not shown that willingness. We could grant amnesty, but only if we see an acknowledgement that a coup is not a valid mean to an end, no matter how noble that end might we. There is no right to amnesty when someone has couped, but there can be a simple way to earn it.
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#78

Quote:2. All individuals involved in the forum move and the Transitional Government will receive a general amnesty for their actions, conditional on good behaviour and acknowledgement of culpability, and revocable by the Assembly for a period of six months.

This wording work for you Kris?
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#79

I can get behind that text. Could you clarify the meaning of "for a period of six months"?
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#80

What I meant was that for six months after the passage of this the Assembly could revoke someone's amnesty if they, to put it bluntly, start acting like a dick. That way this incident isn't hanging over people's heads for years, ready to be dragged into court for political purposes, but there is a period of time where they can lose their immunity if their behaviour proves problematic. "Doveryai no proveryai", if you will.
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