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At Vote: Amendment to Articles IV and XII of the Charter
#21

Okay, as usual, I only notice these things when they go to vote, but in article IV section 5 the following sentence reads very clumsily and is, consequently, rather confusing.
Quote:Debate must last for a minimum period of time equivalent to that proposed legislation will be at vote for.

It's probably too late to amend now, but I would suggest:

Quote:Debate must last for a minimum period of time equivalent to that for which the proposed legislation will be at vote.
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#22

(08-13-2016, 04:21 AM)Seraph Wrote: Okay, as usual, I only notice these things when they go to vote, but in article IV section 5 the following sentence reads very clumsily and is, consequently, rather confusing.
Quote:Debate must last for a minimum period of time equivalent to that proposed legislation will be at vote for.

It's probably too late to amend now, but I would suggest:

Quote:Debate must last for a minimum period of time equivalent to that for which the proposed legislation will be at vote.
I don't see the difference :o

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#23

The second one is better grammatically.
#24

I found that it took me a long time to understand the first one because of the way it was worded. At first I just thought it was nonsense, until I tried reading it a few different ways and one finally made a bit of sense. I believe my wording removes that problem, but I assume I'm the only one who had it.
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#25

This motion is now at vote. Please head over to the Voting Chamber to cast your vote!




#26

I strongly oppose the way this bill handles competing legislation. If I may use some colorful language:

Handling competing bills by making it a dick measuring contest for who can get the most seconds, then prohibiting the smaller dicked bill from even coming to vote if the bigger dicked one passes by even a slim majority.

Like it's entirely possible for the "losing" bill to have more support, but have less seconds anyways.

A *much* better way to handle competing legislation is to put both up at the same time, and whichever one gets the most support is the law the Assembly adopts.

Prohibiting a competing bill from going to vote *at all* because somebody got more people to *second* it is incredibly anti-democratic.


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#27

(08-13-2016, 01:31 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: I strongly oppose the way this bill handles competing legislation. If I may use some colorful language:

Handling competing bills by making it a dick measuring contest for who can get the most seconds, then prohibiting the smaller dicked bill from even coming to vote if the bigger dicked one passes by even a slim majority.

Like it's entirely possible for the "losing" bill to have more support, but have less seconds anyways.

A *much* better way to handle competing legislation is to put both up at the same time, and whichever one gets the most support is the law the Assembly adopts.

Prohibiting a competing bill from going to vote *at all* because somebody got more people to *second* it is incredibly anti-democratic.


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I'd be happy to use that system instead; feel free to draft a suitable amendment, and it will have my support.
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#28

In the meantime, I suggest we have a moratorium on competing bills, then.


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#29

Assuming the Chair has no objections, I would be happy with that.
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