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I agree with Omega. Someone making a mistake doesn't necessarily warrant a recall. Even a single deliberate misuse of power may not warrant recall, depending on its seriousness. There should be measures short of recalling the Chair for correcting such matters.
Everyone makes mistakes. Maybe the Assembly thinks the Chair made the wrong call, and that shouldn't be cause for a recall. A mechanism to reverse the ruling, and move on with other business, should be enough.
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Absolutely agree with this.
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(04-16-2017, 12:55 PM)Omega Wrote: First off, this would be used to overturn a single ruling made by the Chair. Everyone makes mistakes and this provides a way for us to fix a mistake before it becomes a big deal. For example, if a Chair made a ruling saying an item should not be in the Charter and can instead be a general law, and there was a legitimate case against the Chair's ruling, there should be a way for the majority to overturn. However, I don't think anyone would want a recall over a single bad ruling. Why stop at the chair? Why not extend this to all other offices then? I can see this totally working for the MoRA. Listen to this: This would be used to overturn a single decision made by the MoRA. Everyone makes mistakes and this provides a way for us to fix a mistake before it becomes a big deal. For example, if the MoRA decided that the SJ should be published next week monday instead of next week tuesday, and there is a legitimate case against publishing it on monday, there should be a way for the majority to overturn. However, I don't think anyone would want a recall over a single bad ruling. Obviously, that was sarcasm, and intended to show why this is stupid  . Of course you won't recall somebody for a single mistake (unless it's huge), but rather it's a cumulative thing. A mental points system, I suppose - and it's a good thing that there's a certain barrier to a recall, because otherwise we'd have recalls flying all over the place for even the most minor of things, and at the end of the day nothing would get done because you're perpetually busy fighting recalls (hmm, I just had an interesting idea for a UCR....). With the proposed mechanisms, you're basically introducing the chaos of low recall barriers without actually recalling anybody. I'm sure it'd bring some activity to the region, but surely not sustainable activity  Having said that - I'm sure there are ways to sensibly put certain checks in, while not sacrificing the chair's discretionary powers that help guide things along in a reasonable way. A fine pen, marking the edges, if you will - rather than broad strokes with the paint roller. I can't think of any right now (or at least not any that are fully thought through) but I'll post if I do. ![[Image: XXPV74Y.png?1]](https://i.imgur.com/XXPV74Y.png?1)
I should note, @Roavin, that Omega's proposal is included in my draft of the Legislative Procedure Act as well. I'm not sure he's planning to move forward with this, given that it's now included in my draft.
In regard to your criticism, the flaw is that you're essentially saying this: 1. This is too much of a check on the Chair's power. 2. There are probably more reasonable checks, but you're not suggesting any. 3. Conclusion: Let's just leave the Chair all-powerful over the Assembly. Given the conclusion, I couldn't disagree with you more. If you don't like this means of checking the Chair's power, suggest an alternative, otherwise you're just advocating the status quo of the Assembly essentially being at the Chair's mercy.
Seeing as how it makes more sense to keep this in Cormac's Draft of the Legislative Procedure Act, I withdraw my proposal.
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I generally am not a fan of recalls that are not a result of inactivity or gross bad behavior. People making small mistakes or learning while in the position should be encouraged because no one is perfect and then newer players will be afraid to try for things.
Since the Chair - which used to be a cabinet position - is no longer in the cabinet - then perhaps the cabinet plus delegate can form a check if the need arises? Sometimes having seen the same debates over and over again over the same issues becomes strenuating. We are refining things and also assuming that elected people are not of a malicious intent. Escade ~ Positions Held in TSP ~ Delegate | Vice Delegate Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Military Affairs ~ The Sparkly One ~ My Pinterest |
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