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[DRAFT] Resolution on Release of Information
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(04-24-2017, 08:49 PM)Omega Wrote: The bigger question is this: why is Kris concerned that a majority of the Council will not follow this resolution?

Moreover, why are we debating this legislation when I've asked permission behind closed doors to release the thread?
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Because we have no idea what the result of that discussion will be.
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Because that's what people do in a legislature.
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(04-24-2017, 09:42 PM)Omega Wrote: Because we have no idea what the result of that discussion will be.

Some people could contribute to it, but they apparently can't be bothered.
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(04-24-2017, 09:44 PM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-24-2017, 09:42 PM)Omega Wrote: Because we have no idea what the result of that discussion will be.

Some people could contribute to it, but they apparently can't be bothered.

There may be days for you to criticize Kris' and/or Farengeto's performance on the CRS, but believe me, this is not one of those days. The rest of you engaged in conduct so unbecoming of your office that it can only be described as shameful, and they were apparently the only ones who tried to insist on conducting a proper, thorough investigation. How dare you criticize either of them at this point? If I had my druthers they would be the only two left on the CRS.
#16

Tsu, I'm glad you let us know that a request to release the threads has been made.

As for the rest of this discussion in various places, what I'm understanding is that while SPA became a law with a majority of votes perhaps people voting for did not understand what it meant. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you have some faith in the CRS, or your propose things that make it an organization that can function the way it is supposed to (intel agency\security risk assessor) within the confines of the game. Otherwise a castrated CRS, which to be fair is what we've always had, does nothing other than perhaps meditate.

It's not to say that I did not tell the CRS where I thought this would lead when this started and have voiced my concerns about this. I am just trying to imagine any intel agency running in a major region that is subject to constant second guessing by the citizens and failing to think it will work. Which, maybe we don't want an intel agency and want something else entirely.

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Tsu, would rather have the full force of the law behind it instead of hoping for a "ok we'll release that one thread".

Kris, good point! I've subtly adjusted clause 6:


The Assembly of the South Pacific,

REFERRING TO the recent investigation by the Council on Regional Security into Belschaft's contact with Neo Kervoskia and the possibility of Belschaft posing a security threat to the region,

NOTING the unreasonably long length of the investigation without substantive results to justify it,

APPALLED at the internal strife of the Council leaking into the broader halls of the Assembly and implying, if not proving, a misuse of office,

BELIEVING that the Council on Regional Security did not use good judgement in its investigations and rulings,

SEEKING TO use the information to gain clarity on the case and improve the process going forward,

hereby resolves:

1. The Council on Regional Security must, within 24 hours of this resolution's passage, have compiled a list of threads pertaining to the investigation, dating back to the initial findings of the conversation between Belschaft and Neo Kervoskia, and provide this list (which must include the name of the thread and whether sensitive information is contained therein) to the assembly;

2. The Council on Regional Security must, within 24 hours of releasing the list of threads, release for Legislator viewing any thread that is not considered to contain sensitive information.

3. The Council on Regional Security must, within 72 hours of releasing the list of threads, release for Legislator viewing all other threads appropriately redacted.

4. The Council on Regional Security must, after releasing all threads, name a candidate that is not themselves on the Council which they trust to audit the Council chambers for a three day approval vote in the Assembly; if the approval vote fails a simple majority, the process begins anew, otherwise the candidate voted upon is considered the Auditor herein.

5. The Auditor must be granted full access to the council chambers for one week to review full release of relevant threads as well as the appropriateness of the redactions undertaken by the Council, and present these findings to the Assembly after the week expires.

6. Failure by members of the Council on Regional Security to follow this resolution will be considered dereliction of duty.
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The APCRC has voted unanimously to support this resolution!
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(04-24-2017, 09:42 PM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-24-2017, 08:49 PM)Omega Wrote: The bigger question is this: why is Kris concerned that a majority of the Council will not follow this resolution?

Moreover, why are we debating this legislation when I've asked permission behind closed doors to release the thread?

Because how is anyone supposed to know what is happening behind closed doors?
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(04-25-2017, 02:34 PM)QuietDad Wrote:
(04-24-2017, 09:42 PM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-24-2017, 08:49 PM)Omega Wrote: The bigger question is this: why is Kris concerned that a majority of the Council will not follow this resolution?

Moreover, why are we debating this legislation when I've asked permission behind closed doors to release the thread?

Because how is anyone supposed to know what is happening behind closed doors?

This was directed in general — to the people who can see my post.

I'll endorse this and motion it to a vote.
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