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Charter Ammendment - Ideals and Principles
#91

Although I am a little late to this discussion, can I ask why we are even proposing this charter change in the first place?

It seems to me that this is an exercise motivated by an individual member of this place hoping to enshrine in law a doctrine that will shape the region for the future.

How it is both a futile exercise and one that is completely anti-democratic.

Firstly, it is futile because you cannot stop a region taking up a certain alignment or ideology merely through the law. I have tried in a previous place, to carry out such a strategy when I was concerned about a wave of immigration that we had that threatened to take the region away from the constitutional course that I had wanted. Although I was able to get my views put in law, in the end they were ignored and then repealed with no real affect taking place.

So for those that believe that this strategy will somehow help to make TSP "independent" forever, they are just kidding themselves.

TSP is independent because that is the character of the region today, that may or may not change but it will be the community that decides and keeps that ideology (and Unibot is completely correct to call it an ideology, to not have an ideology is to have one, so to speak) alive.

If you want to keep TSP independent then you have to continue political engagement through debates here and convincing new members, not passing law and hoping that will set everything in stone.

Secondly, it is anti-democratic. Our second principle is that the People are sovereign, yet it also tries to prescribe the political ideology that guides the region. That is completely contradictory.

The people should have the right to decide their own course and that is something that I believe makes TSP a great region to be part of.

If TSP wants to become Imperialist/Raider/Defender then it has the sovereignty to do so.

To deny the people their right to have their way on an extremely important issue as this is nonsense and should be thrown out.
#92

I, for one, suspect the Republican Party in America would love to pass a love a bill that says "NO LIBERALISM IN GOVERNMENT!". :hehe!:
#93

(06-15-2014, 10:37 AM)Unibot Wrote: I, for one, suspect the Republican Party in America would love to pass a love a bill that says "NO LIBERALISM IN GOVERNMENT!". :hehe!:

Republicans would love to pass a bill?! That in and of itself would be quite a change. Tounge
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#94

True. Tounge
#95

Republicans pass as many bills as democrats do.
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#96

Now up for a vote.
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