Judging from the OP, it definitely looks like the party has a platform....

Something has to be in the OP to describe the party or else how is a meeting to discuss its policies supposed to happen? :s

I didn't say it didn't have a platform. I see ten points or policies that, well, form a platform.

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Exactly. This is clearly a platform.

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A collection of vague principles isn't a platform. A list of policies we want to see enacted is a platform.

Is there anything even disagreeable about the principles? I don't get the fuss or why it's shady for anybody to join an effort to do something new in TSP. Those of us running have our campaign platforms. It's not like we're all lying and secretly colluding to pull a bait-n-switch. Especially when the principles listed in the OP are things we've all said we believe it at one point or another.

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GR -- which is more important to you? Your campaign platform or this? Because right now, no one knows because you didn't give them the opportunity to ask.

You can mince words all you like. But, you actually did bait-n-switch, whether you want to admit it or not.

EDIT: Maybe not a complete a bait-n-switch. But at the least you added another platform to your own.

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Only one of those things is an actual platform. In my campaign thread, I put forth actual policies I want to see enacted, specifically the bilateral treaties I mentioned.

In this thread, the OP lists principles that pretty much everybody agrees with. Principle =/= policy. Everybody in TSP supports the democratic process and thinks we should empower citizens. That's not a platform. A platform is what specific policies we should enact to empower citizens. The party doesn't have a platform, because the first meeting is next Sunday, and that's when we'll set the basic planks of the platform. It may be that I disagree with the actual platform discussed then, and pull my name out of the list.

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill, here. First of all, people can change their votes. If the people who have voted for me want to engage in some kind of mass exodus over this, that would be unfortunate, but it's their right. So, no, this isn't a bait-n-switch. Second, every single principle in the OP is something that's already enshrined in various campaign platforms, laws, and treaties in our region. So it's not like anything in this thread has introduced any new ideas. The OP just needed something to draw people in.

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I'm not fighting in circles about this. You clearly don't want to admit to what was a massive lack of judgment and that's fine. But don't pretend that this is business as usual.

-tsunamy
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You're right that it's not business as usual. It's a group of players trying something new.

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By conforming to a political party / platform in the midst of an election.

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By proposing the idea of a political party, and discussing specifics well after the election.

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By proposing the idea of a political party, and discussing specifics well after the election.

Well, perhaps we could ask the OP what they meant by "The Progressive Party believes in" and then lists a ten-point platform. Once the OP reveals themself, that is.

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