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The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - sandaoguo - 03-04-2015
Let's face it, guys. This is a defender treaty. In the history of TSP, we've had far more governments overtly or implicitly anti-defender. Having this treaty put on the chopping block every year, to be saved only by a supermajority, is reckless. I have no clue why Spiritus would even accept that clause during negotiations. I certainly wouldn't have done so. And I don't think we should be introducing such gambling into what are supposed to be long-term relationships.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - TAC Saxton - 03-04-2015
Even without that clause, what's to stop anti-defenders from putting it up for repeal anyways? Either way it could still happen, so your argument is moot.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Darkstrait - 03-04-2015
The offending clauses must be removed or watching this fail will be amusing.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Unibot - 03-04-2015
(03-04-2015, 12:35 AM)TAC Wrote: You mean it would be easier to just sign it and pack it away until it's either repealed or forgotten
Lots of our treaties don't work this way.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Escade - 03-04-2015
I actually think I'm still a citizen of Spritus and do think they would make a great ally (they have a lot of fun people there).
However, the treaty has a bit too many loopholes that Kris and Tac have pointed out. I will take a look at the Spiritus side of the debate when I have time this week.
Our treaties should be valuable to our allies and to us.
Unibot, if the re-ratification period was changed to two years would that work for you?
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Punchwood - 03-04-2015
I don't see anything wrong with this treaty at all. I mean I don't like the wording of it meaning I just think you could use simpler words but I think it's good enough.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Sopo - 03-04-2015
If Spiritus wants to change it we should. We need an update on their discussion so we can progress.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Lord Ravenclaw - 03-04-2015
FA will be speaking to Spiritus' FA minister sometime tomorrow and comparing feedback. We will then work on suggested amendments from both sides and try to make a document that works.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Unibot - 03-05-2015
Excellent, good to hear.
RE: The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] - Unibot - 03-09-2015
Any word on this?
