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(06-02-2016, 08:53 PM)Qvait Wrote: Somewhere, there is a poll showing that the majority of Bernie supporters would go support Trump over Clinton, which is a problem that must be fixed. I don't think it is a problem though. I mean when it was Clinton vs Obama loads of Clinton supporters say they would vote for the Republican nominee or not turn up to vote. We all know how that turned out. Also I'm glad to see that you are now starting to accept the reality that Clinton will be the nominee. Europeian Ambassador to The South Pacific
Former Local Council Member Former Minister of Regional Affairs Former High Court Justice (06-03-2016, 10:34 AM)Punchwood Wrote:(06-02-2016, 08:53 PM)Qvait Wrote: Somewhere, there is a poll showing that the majority of Bernie supporters would go support Trump over Clinton, which is a problem that must be fixed. That happened on April 26, when Bernie failed to win Pennsylvania and a couple other states. However, I'm sticking with the belief that if he received more recognition from the media, he would have performed better. It's also my belief that Bernie did not do so well with the African American vote due to a lack of name recognition. He has done just as much a service to African Americans as Clinton did. In fact, Bernie was on the ground protesting in the Civil Rights Movement. It's just that Clinton received much more exposure in the last two decades. She had been the First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State. Bernie had been the Mayor of Burlington, Representative, and Senator.
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Hey, I have a bunch of issues. You don't need to care. Emoji of the week: :dodgy: (06-03-2016, 04:52 PM)Qvait Wrote: That happened on April 26, when Bernie failed to win Pennsylvania and a couple other states. However, I'm sticking with the belief that if he received more recognition from the media, he would have performed better. It's also my belief that Bernie did not do so well with the African American vote due to a lack of name recognition. He has done just as much a service to African Americans as Clinton did. In fact, Bernie was on the ground protesting in the Civil Rights Movement. It's just that Clinton received much more exposure in the last two decades. She had been the First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State. Bernie had been the Mayor of Burlington, Representative, and Senator. I get your point but he has been in the public light for more than a year now I don't think you can blame Bernie's shortcomings with African Americans just because he hasn't been in the public light for very all. Anyway we've got June the 7th to look forward to and that will be the last Super Tuesday of the year then it will just be D.C left to vote. Europeian Ambassador to The South Pacific
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(06-03-2016, 05:18 PM)Punchwood Wrote:(06-03-2016, 04:52 PM)Qvait Wrote: That happened on April 26, when Bernie failed to win Pennsylvania and a couple other states. However, I'm sticking with the belief that if he received more recognition from the media, he would have performed better. It's also my belief that Bernie did not do so well with the African American vote due to a lack of name recognition. He has done just as much a service to African Americans as Clinton did. In fact, Bernie was on the ground protesting in the Civil Rights Movement. It's just that Clinton received much more exposure in the last two decades. She had been the First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State. Bernie had been the Mayor of Burlington, Representative, and Senator. Shh. The movement is no longer based on reason, but on the fact that Bernie was treated unfairly. Those millions more voted for Hillary were clearly duped by an unlikeable shrill.
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Say what you like, but in my opinion the DNC scheduling debates at inconvenient times says a lot to me, as does the superdelegate split, and the media bias, and oh so much else.
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Former Local Council Member Former Minister of Regional Affairs Former High Court Justice (06-07-2016, 11:36 AM)Darkstrait Wrote: Say what you like, but in my opinion the DNC scheduling debates at inconvenient times says a lot to me, as does the superdelegate split, and the media bias, and oh so much else. Yes the big bad establishment is the only reason Bernie lost. Grow up quite frankly, instead of accepting the fact that you have lost you are blaming it on something else. If everything was so stacked up against him then why has he done so well? Why has he lasted this long and why was it not him who lost in February instead of Martin O'Mally an establishment candidate? You can either keep blaming the fact that you lost on something or someone else or you can rally around Clinton, helping to unite the party and vow to keep fighting on for what you believe in. Europeian Ambassador to The South Pacific
Former Local Council Member Former Minister of Regional Affairs Former High Court Justice (06-07-2016, 04:49 PM)Punchwood Wrote:(06-07-2016, 04:11 PM)Qvait Wrote: I think that both parties should do away with the primaries, the delegate system, and the electoral college. The thing about the primaries is that most people who vote in them are either dedicated to voting or are political extremists. I think that an election for president should take place on one day at one time. Instead of using the blasted electoral college, I would implement an instant-runoff voting (IRV) system, which I endorse. If the 2016 presidential election was conducted with this system, Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton would be President. Let's make it clear: neither candidate really deserves to be President. Clinton's incompetent and Trump has a bad temper. If you get rid of the primaries, and had an election on one day, more people are involved. So few people are involved in the primaries, and people begin to wonder why they have to decide between terrible candidates. As to Clinton, you're right. She's fought for LGBT rights, equality, etc., but she failed to save four Americans in Benghazi. My problem with her isn't her using a private email server as much as it was her judgement when the consulate was calling for backup and no help came. With the exception to her vote for the War in Iraq, she did everything right, until September 11, 2012. EDIT: I don't think that she had malicious intent, but the consulate was calling for more security in the days leading up to the attack. She showed poor judgement, and that is why I am calling her incompetent. |
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