(02-06-2017, 10:56 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:

(02-06-2017, 10:34 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: First, if you want to complain how about parties "grew," let's talk about how you felt the need to take the TIL off-site to "plan." Personally, I thought that was treasonous

That is very dangerous language to use. Are we really going to accuse people who use offsite resources of engaging in treasonous activities? More to the point, do you even have any evidence that questionable activities took place there?

(02-06-2017, 10:34 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: And, to Kris' point — you can put things into place to encourage them to grow, such as recognizing them and offering them forums.

Indeed, and yet we still have two parties. There comes a point where we have to accept that political parties arise naturally, and if the political and cultural circumstances aren't right, no amount of legislative encouragement will help.

This is why I edited what I wrote in the heat of the moment. But, yes, I think it was sketchy and shouldn't have been allowed. I'd make the argument that it doesn't matter what was on the site, but the fact that a hidden forum was created to influence the region is plenty problematic in of itself. That said, I've long decided to let that go in the interest of trying to bring the community closer together. But, if we need proof of potential problems of parties, that's plenty of it.

And, Kris, it's not just legislative. We have a forum that we create. There are a lot of things we control that can help make parties come together. If it's something as simple as having a new forum, that's an easy fix. Do people even know they can start a political party? These are the questions/issues we can address which aren't necessarily legal.