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06-03-2017, 01:31 PM

(06-03-2017, 12:16 PM)Vox Templar Wrote: No matter what your beliefs on climate change are, you cannot deny that President Obama violated Article II, Section 2 of the US Constitution by not treating the Paris Agreement as a treaty and submitting it to the Senate for advice and consent, just like every other major piece of environmental legislation that has come before it. It also violates the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change. The following article explains the legal aspects of unchecked, unlawful executive power in regards to this agreement:
http://www.heritage.org/testimony/paris-...al-america

"In terms of climate benefits produced by Paris, there are practically none.

"Even if every country met its commitments—a big “if” considering China has already underreported its carbon dioxide emissions, and there are no repercussions for failing to meet the pledges—the changes in the earth’s temperature would be almost undetectable."
http://www.heritage.org/environment/comm...-agreement

The free market is the best place to innovate with better energy technologies, not mandated by governments spending other peoples' money. Not participating in this one agreement doesn't prevent anything constructive pro-environmental policies in the future.

Solyndra ring any bells?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...a-scandal/

And here is analysis of the impact the Paris Accords would've had on the American economy.
http://www.heritage.org/environment/repo...ially-zero

President Obama did not violate any constitutional statute. He ratified the Paris Agreement as an Executive Agreement, and it was fully within the power of the President to do so. These things have been happening for a long time in the history of the United States and just because President Obama was a Democrat, it does not change that fact. "More than 90% of binding international agreements governed by international law are concluded by the United States without Senate advice and consent." There is sourcing within the first link below that indicate that the United States has entered into more than 18,500 executive agreements since 1789. So, it was entirely within President Obama's authority to enter the Paris Agreement.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/paris-agreem...ment-power

If you think that there is a future for the coal and oil industries, you have sorely mistaken. Just like how the carriage industry went out of business over a century ago (only to be replaced by the automobile industry), the same is happening to coal and oil. These people will find new employment opportunities in solar, wind, and nuclear. The truth of the matter is, industries come and go and humans have to adapt to these changes. Losses in one industry are offset by another. Besides, the solar industry alone creates more jobs than coal, gas, and oil combined. Leaving the Paris Agreement actually harms the U.S. economy.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/02/why-pu...ic-future/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-paris-...act-check/

(06-03-2017, 12:16 PM)Vox Templar Wrote: I'm curious to see how California will be able keep up with the Paris Accords to torpedo their own economy more than they already have. The state is broke and on the verge of bancrupcy due to many years of anti-business policies and laws, as well as big, unfunded public pensions. Many companies have already left, including Nestlé, Hardee's and Toyota. And let's not forget that California has had Gov. Brown before...

"Vranich reports that the bitter negative perceptions of California for business began during Jerry Brown’s first chaotic two terms as California Governor from 1975 to 1983. Things got so bad that the Governor instructed his aides in 1977 to begin wearing “California Means Business” buttons."

"California had almost the lowest poverty rate in the nation in 1977 at about 11.8 percent. But after the mass migration of 9,000 businesses, California’s 16.4 percent poverty rate is substantially higher than the 14.5 percent national average and near the top overall."
https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart...-2008/amp/

"The key takeaway from the Mercatus Center's list is that the vast majority of the states in poor fiscal health are blue states, demonstrating yet again how lavish government spending is unsustainable and economically unviable in the long run. The dismal return on CalPERS's investments are particularly reflective of that common sense economic reality."
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7619/9-mos...on-bandler

Yeah, the manufacturing industry has left, but that doesn't tell the whole story. First of all, Carl's Jr. (what you know as Hardee's) is still in California. Secondly, Silicon Valley (the tech industry) has remained and has only grown over the decades. We have Apple, Facebook, Google, etc. and they have recently expanded into Southern California. California has the third-largest share of Fortune 500 companies in the country. The state of California is investing in high-speed rail, which will create tons of employment opportunities. We're already creating jobs by putting people to work on building the rail system. I don't know about you, but this doesn't look anti-business to me and we're certainly not broke. And, when it comes to our debt, it only makes sense why we have a large debt, because we're a big state. The top three debtors in this country are California, Texas, and New York (in that order). As of the 2010 Census, that is the same order as the most populous states in the country. We also have lots of money. We have the sixth-largest economy in the world and the largest in the country.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-la...story.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-...1495648047
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-s...story.html

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And by the way, when it comes to poverty, the U.S. Census Bureau does not take into account regional housing costs nor noncash government benefits, but even with the current assessment standards, California still outperformed the quintessential Republican state that is Texas. Twelve of the fifteen states and D.C. that are in a worse situation than California are safe Republican states (Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arizona, West Virginia, Georgia, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi).

http://fortune.com/2015/06/15/states-mos...companies/