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Political Parties: A Discussion
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Thanks, Tsu!

No I agree with what you are saying about not making it prohibitive for anyone to run. Also the APC\TIL agreement seemed to have fallen apart pretty quickly. It's hard to get people to agree. If this is the first election with parties, we may see what their effect is and be able to think about impacts by discussing pros and cons for individuals who join or choose not to join?

However, I'm trying to think of laws that aren't already on the legal code that would need to be made to "curtail" parties.

For example, parties already seem to state that while members are encouraged to vote as a bloc they are not required to. Then, it seems like if members were not treated well they would probably leave? That would be a "naturally people would not joing a party that threatens them or is unfun or somehow prohibitive." Or do we want a law stating that parties may not require members to vote as a block? But then do parties have the right to reject a member or someone who seems like a spy or a troll?

I don't feel comfortable joining a party without further investigation and discussion with members about goals and def. not while running a campaign but I'd like to try one out and see how it fits? Maybe try out more than one?

Like here are possible ways to curtail parties:
1. Limit membership for each party (can be worked around and also seems undemocratic)
2. Make a law that prohibits individuals and political party members from exchanging endorsements before campaigns have been officially published (how easy or hard would this be to enforce? can it be enforced?)

3. Add something to the Legislator application wherein people's oath states clearly they they will vote with honesty and integrity in the elections? (more doable but I assume we would need precise wording)
Put in a reminder during elections and when people enter the voting booth that they took a solemn oath to uphold our cultural values? (DM, this might also tie into your point which I forget if its in thread or elsewhere)

Oh and about the Wolf situation, I understand your point and thanks for discussing this issue with me on Discord and here and for filling in some of the gaps for me. That is why you are the best and help me see things from a truly neutral and compassionate perspective <3

My point was related to the fact that a majority of people who voted for him were not TSPers and had obtained citizenship solely to vote for him. This was revealed to me by some of them on IRC. Those people and Wolf, it seems, dissapeared. That is foreign interference and the kind of thing we can actively legislate to prevent. Several people, including B&N and others had some ideas on this and I will dig through for their solution.

Escade

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Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 05:45 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-06-2017, 06:01 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 06:04 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-06-2017, 06:05 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-06-2017, 06:15 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-06-2017, 06:23 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 06:37 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 10:34 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-06-2017, 06:38 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 06:49 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-06-2017, 06:40 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 06:45 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-06-2017, 06:48 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-06-2017, 06:53 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 06:55 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-06-2017, 06:58 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-06-2017, 07:04 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Spenty - 02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-06-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-07-2017, 12:09 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-07-2017, 12:06 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-07-2017, 01:13 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ausstan - 02-07-2017, 02:10 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Seraph - 02-07-2017, 02:27 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-07-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-07-2017, 03:08 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-07-2017, 03:26 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-07-2017, 03:45 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-07-2017, 04:34 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Zak6858 - 02-07-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-07-2017, 05:10 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ausstan - 02-07-2017, 05:19 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Zak6858 - 02-07-2017, 05:20 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-08-2017, 09:07 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-08-2017, 10:04 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-08-2017, 10:32 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-08-2017, 11:45 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-08-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-09-2017, 12:50 AM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-09-2017, 07:27 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-09-2017, 07:35 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-09-2017, 10:42 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-09-2017, 11:33 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-10-2017, 12:39 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-10-2017, 10:48 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-10-2017, 05:56 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-12-2017, 03:40 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-12-2017, 11:57 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-13-2017, 12:09 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-12-2017, 11:04 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-13-2017, 06:54 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Cormac - 02-13-2017, 09:37 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-13-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Roavin - 02-13-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by QuietDad - 02-13-2017, 01:04 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-13-2017, 01:35 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Sygian - 02-13-2017, 01:41 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Ryccia - 02-13-2017, 02:11 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Cormac - 02-13-2017, 04:11 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Cormac - 02-13-2017, 04:46 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Tsunamy - 02-13-2017, 05:33 PM
Political Parties: A Discussion - by sandaoguo - 02-13-2017, 06:11 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-13-2017, 08:23 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-13-2017, 08:47 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Escade - 02-13-2017, 09:13 PM
RE: Political Parties: A Discussion - by Omega - 02-13-2017, 09:35 PM



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