It's not very helpful to be purposefully provocative. I'm not sure what it's supposed to "draw attention" to, aside from very anti-democratic ideas flowing about in certain quarters. Let's not forget that it was seriously proposed that offsite party forums be banned and TSPers using them be banned as well. If you were trying to be provocative but not serious, Tsu, it really says something that people are taking you seriously. If you think advocates of parties are being unreasonable, consider that we think you're being dangerously retributive when you say "let's ban parties from endorsing or setting their own rules."

The reality is -- and you can deny it as much as you want; doesn't change a thing -- strategizing and coordinating to "stack" elections has been a common feature in almost every election we've had. You've done it, as well! Nobody in this thread can sit in their high horse, when it comes to "shady dealings" in TSP politics.

@QuietDad: That's what I think is happening now. People are demonizing parties. It's quid-pro-quo corruption for parties to swap endorsements, but I don't see those people proposing snooping in PMs and banning coordination over Discord. Nobody here can say it's ok to coordinate over private conversations who's going to run for what, or when to accept nominations, or how to order ballots-- things that have happened in the past several years of elections-- but then start proposing overbearing paternalistic regulation of parties engaging in the behavior political parties should be engaging in.

Elections in TSP has never been entirely meritocratic. The people now arguing they need to be are the same people who have engaged in far shadier dealings than APC and TIL agreeing to endorse already widely popular candidates.


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