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Prime Minister/Appointed Cabinet Discussion
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(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: More commonly known as a Chief of Staff, or Minister without Portfolio or an advisor.

The Prime Minister position as we have it does contain large traces of those roles, yeah.

Unfortunately, that's where the sensible portion of your post ends.

(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: I must thank you all however as you've proven my point perfectly.

Really?

(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: You all care too much about the status-quo than even think about supporting any change or any new idea from anyone.

Which is why in the last 9 months, our government has:
  • Fundamentally changed the Delegate position to be non-political, a first in GCRs
  • Completely gotten rid of the Vice-Delegate position
  • Introduced the PM position
  • Taken the CoA out of the Cabinet
  • Added a bloc vote for the LC
  • Had heavy discussions about, and legislated several specifics regarding, how the game-side and forum-side work together
  • Introduced political parties, including a legal definition thereof with legislated requirements, priviledges, and responsibilities
  • Went from Condorcet voting to FTFP to now IRV+RON voting systems for elections
  • ...and surely more that I'm forgetting

Totally status quo, amirite?

(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: I can see why Tsu would not like this, it would mean some real competition for him come Delegate elections.

Discord now supports search. Have you tried that feature? Tsu has expressed several times in public, and many times in private, the desire for more competition in races such as his own. There were actually 5 candidates for the Delegacy, and while the game-side vote had a decent margin for Tsu over Glen, it was by no means a one-sided deal. Did you know that Tsu was very pleased with that? Probably not, because that would require being here.

(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: Tsu like DM has no record to defend so everyone thinks he's done an amazing job. When there is nothing for you to defend as there is nothing for you to do, you'll have always done a good job and so there is no need for someone to challenge you, and so the status-quo remains the same.

Yes, Tsu has no record to defend. He apparently did nothing in the past 14 years in which he has been MoFA, Vice-Delegate, Delegate, journalist, author of many pieces of legislation, and known proponent of consensus-seeking and pragmatism in almost all of our affairs. That's absolutely no record.

On the other hand, somebody who did fuck all as MoRA and as LC and still thought it'd be a great idea to run for MoFA twice while completely disappearing from the region between successive elections does have a record; want to take a guess how positive that record is?

(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: Have you not noticed that everyone is worthy of re-election, everyone has done an amazing job no matter what. Let's be honest here this Cabinet has been one of our worst. There has been no change, no achievement, nothing. Yet I bet that if they all stood for re-election they would all be re-elected.

Oh?

Wanna take a look at the astounding number of nominations and votes that the SPSF got during the recent Gameplay Awards? And looking at regional affairs, have you seen the massive flurry of activity that Seraph has gotten going on the MoRA Discord wit----- oh wait, you haven't seen it, because you fucked off in the middle of it.

(02-08-2017, 01:45 PM)Punchwood Wrote: I'm talking now to those who want to see TSP active again, who don't want to protect the status-quo, who aren't currently part of the "establishment" (I hate that word but it's the only one that meets the context here). If TSP is to become active again then change is needed. It may not be my change, it may be someone else's, but the only way that TSP will become a success again is with change. If you don't stand up to those who benefit from the status-quo then those people will always be in charge and we will always be in the status-quo.

The cabinet has two establishment candidates and two new candidates. For the outgoing CoA, it was the first formal office. Hardly establishment.



So this is what it has come down to with your relationship in TSP. Not being here, and then showing up and telling us all that we need to bust our asses and put the work in to make this region great again. I'm sorry, maybe you missed it with your absence and all, but we have been doing all of that - we, those who you dare to insult so recklessly, have been working relentlessly in making sure there continues to be a region for you to ignore and only visit conveniently during elections. You owe Seraph, Tsu, Vietnam, myself, and many many others an apology, and I sincerely wish that you cannot bear to see your face in the mirror until you have done so.

Since you're so free in giving your sage wisdom, maybe you will appreciate some of mine: Go fuck off back to Europeia and this time, stay there. We don't need you.
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