(04-08-2017, 05:21 PM)Farengeto Wrote:

(04-08-2017, 04:38 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Aiight — here goes.

Unless someone can lay out EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, I think we're done here. I've asked several times now — what more do we wanted considering my belief s that we've gotten all we're going to get — and the answer remains that two of us want an investigation. 

Unfortunately, "investigations" can take many forms. And, unless we get more details in how you see the "proper" investigation we owe the region playing out, I'm afraid I can't help put that together.

Finally, again, this isn't. a. punishment. This is making sure Bel doesn't undermine the government. That's different than being punished for bad behavior.

Firstly, the SPSF. What were they doing. What was Bel doing under their orders. Did the SPSF know anything Bel was doing. What angle is Roavin trying to pull, apparently having ordered this then throwing Bel to us.

Even asking NK if there's anything he will admit about Bel and his conversations.

We're not asking for some big investigative committee with grand public testimonies. We need to get out there and find more detail and context on the evidence we have.

You may not consider this a punishment, but your terms certainly disagree. We're talking about banning him from holding WA in the region. It's practically a step below outright banning him, especially since it limits his ability to vote in certain elections. And for our concerns about the SPSF it just frees up Bel to use his WA for them.

The CRS doesn't need to bow to public opinion, but the goal here is to not have people try to overthrow us instead. If half of us aren't even convinced we've done this right, then how do you think the rest of the region will react?

No, two of you are being pedantic to be fucking pedantic. You've been asked several times what you want an investigation to look like and this is the first concrete answer that's been given.

The rest of us aren't mind readers so when we ask about how to proceed with an investigation — in the future — I'd appreciate an answer rather than this runaround with just sucked a week out of the timeline.

Can we get a volunteer to talk to NK?

Do we want to bring Vietnam in or how do we propose we examine what the SPSF is doing?