Look — you keep on talking about giving the Assembly a say, but you haven't provided any actual criticism of why our current recall system, which literally gives the Assembly a say, isn't working.

In fact, you seem to draw an equivalence between these two things:

And a say can be the act of a recall and, or, a motion of no-confidence, but can also be the approval of a high-ranking governmental official.

The problem is, these two forms of giving the Assembly a say are functionally different. Our recall provisions list specific reasons why an Election Commissioner can be recalled. This is important. We need to be able to remove an Election Commissioner who is not doing their job or who is conducting their elections unfairly. We shouldn't be able to prevent an Election Commissioner from assuming their position without a justified reason (or without a reason at all). That is precisely what your amendment would allow.

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Look — you keep on talking about giving the Assembly a say, but you haven't provided any actual criticism of why our current recall system, which literally gives the Assembly a say, isn't working.

In fact, you seem to draw an equivalence between these two things:

And a say can be the act of a recall and, or, a motion of no-confidence, but can also be the approval of a high-ranking governmental official.

The problem is, these two forms of giving the Assembly a say are functionally different. Our recall provisions list specific reasons why an Election Commissioner can be recalled. This is important. We need to be able to remove an Election Commissioner who is not doing their job or who is conducting their elections unfairly. We shouldn't be able to prevent an Election Commissioner from assuming their position without a justified reason (or without a reason at all). That is precisely what your amendment would allow.

In matters of preventing corruption, the Assembly should have a say in who the Election Commissioner is. Now, if they, meaning all Legislators, feel that the Commissioner is some corrupted servant, they should have a say first before the EC takes office. It can prevent a recall, and, not only the CRS, but the Assembly too should have confidence in the EC.

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...and where exactly does your amendment reference preventing corruption?

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...and where exactly does your amendment reference preventing corruption?

It doesn't say so on the amendment and it would feel pointless to write something like that on the amendment. You may not like this addition to the Elections Law, however, I do, and we can agree to disagree. As I said before, we're all one TSP and that's what makes us strong

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...and where exactly does your amendment reference preventing corruption?

It doesn't say so on the amendment and it would feel pointless to write something like that on the amendment. You may not like this addition to the Elections Law, however, I do, and we can agree to disagree. As I said before, we're all one TSP and that's what makes us strong

If you are trying to advance a bill it generally helps to advance its merits rather than just saying "agree to disagree".

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The entire point of having the CRS - who have all been approved by the Assembly - is to have a group of highly trusted players capable of making decisions about sensitive matters and carrying out duties like running an election. This really would just be tedious and unnecessary bureaucracy.

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You may not like this addition to the Elections Law, however, I do, and we can agree to disagree. As I said before, we're all one TSP and that's what makes us strong

Saying "you disagree with me and that's okay, we're still one TSP" is a given that doesn't need to be said. Democratic processes and our respect for them already create that framework. Just answer the question, concern, or argument.

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...and where exactly does your amendment reference preventing corruption?

The amendment, as it stands, does not reference preventing corruption.

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...and where exactly does your amendment reference preventing corruption?

The amendment, as it stands, does not reference preventing corruption.

The post you made directly before Pronoun's lists preventing corruption as one of the main reasons for the bill.

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...and where exactly does your amendment reference preventing corruption?

The amendment, as it stands, does not reference preventing corruption.

The post you made directly before Pronoun's lists preventing corruption as one of the main reasons for the bill.

I know, however the amendment itself does not state corruption. However, it can work to prevent that.

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