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Yes, but as Election Commissioner he suspected the vote early on but didn't discount it until a critical juncture. The citizen in question voted very early in the election. Hileville asked a Court question. The Court did not respond within a time frame. Hileville chose to act unilaterally. If he had waited for the courts and publicly stated that he was doing so, people would then look at a vested authority in TSP and see what it ruled which would then set precedence for future elections.
That is not what happened and therefore it seem opportunistic. I know that every candidate would like a clean election and not feel, from whether 50 or 49 percent of the population, that they were elected by a clerical error or through one person making a very big decision. As I've stated before, ECs are not elected or approved. They do not, currently, even have to be citizens. Giving them unlimited power and setting a precedence that ECs can act unilaterally is dangerous. Finally, timing is important in any situation. The EC was familiar with our elections and systems and quite possibly that the citizenship list is not updated as it maybe in other regions. The waiting till the end, at the crux, and then not waiting a little bit longer for the court to rule or establish its authority was a mistake. No one is blaming Hileville, its a weird situation to be in but also TSP has never been about one person making the decision for many but rather the community cooperating to come together for solutions. Hopefully, this process gives the Courts, the Assembly and people the chance to figure out things should be and how we can improve upon them. Escade ~ Positions Held in TSP ~ Delegate | Vice Delegate Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Military Affairs ~ The Sparkly One ~ My Pinterest (03-31-2015, 07:26 PM)Escade Wrote: Yes, but as Election Commissioner he suspected the vote early on but didn't discount it until a critical juncture. The citizen in question voted very early in the election. Hileville asked a Court question. The Court did not respond within a time frame. Hileville chose to act unilaterally. If he had waited for the courts and publicly stated that he was doing so, people would then look at a vested authority in TSP and see what it ruled which would then set precedence for future elections. And, as I said before, none of that confusion would have occurred had the Admin team, one of which I was running against and potentially benefited from this situation, ran a simple check right before elections on all citizens and removed the masking of those who were in violation of the law.
Admins screwing up doesn't make what Hileville did right or legal.
I'm not saying that, I am saying, however, that the Admins shouldn't have screwed up in the first place.
Nobody is going around saying otherwise...
So why are we not holding the Administration staff responsible for their blunder? Especially when one was running in this contested election and may have very well personally benefited from not remasking a member who had an incorrect citizenship masking in open violation of the law?
1. Should we build the stocks, or do you prefer burning at the stake? The Admins have already apologized for the oversight.
2. Even though it's enough that I'm not psychic and cannot predict the future (and thus could not have planned for a tie), rest assured that I haven't done anything regarding citizenship practically since these forums were created. That's a responsibility I've purposefully left to Tsunamy and Kris.
Well, I find it funny that you're raking Hileville over the coals for trying to deal with your error, is all.
Sort of ironic you want people to drop what Admin has done but you've accused Hileville of being corrupt and in the wrong without cease. (03-31-2015, 11:12 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: That's a responsibility I've purposefully left to Tsunamy and Kris. And Kris has stated, repeatedly, that he will not adjust any citizen masks, leaving that responsibility up to Tsunamy and Glen. So I guess Glen and Kris are throwing Tsu under the bus on this matter, eh?
1. Hileville took it upon himself to unilaterally decide what authority he had, going so far as to withdraw the question from the Courts so that he could make the decision himself. That is not the same as admins accidentally forgetting to conduct an activity check, no matter how you wish to twist that into the admins being corrupt and trying to defeat you.
2. I imagine we will have an announcement on what exactly us admins have discussed regarding our role in citizenship removal, after Tsu gets back from his academic conference.
Oh for goodness sake. There must be a special election for Foreign Affairs no matter what the Court says as lets be honest most of what the Court does not make a decision because "of a lack of evidence."
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